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in the 1930s President Franklin Delano

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Roosevelt addressed the nation through a

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series of radio broadcasts known as the

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Fireside Chats his aim was to reassure

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the common man that our society would

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recover from its troubled times well

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we're far from 1930 and I deal with a

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different kind of fire for a new era of

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worldly frustration we offer a fresh

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conversation I'm Greg carlwood and these

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are the higher side chats yes good

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people of the internet how we doing out

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there from Sunny San Diego I'm Greg

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carlwood and it's a confusing thing just

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how numb passive ignorant and uncurious

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people tend to be today rarely pondering

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the deeper questions of what human life

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even is yet being able to Rattle off a

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minutia of meaningless NFL statistics

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spending their entire lifetime in

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Baseline Consciousness total mind

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capture without any sense of adventure

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or exploration between The Daily Grind

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and the Nightly News knowing we have

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mysterious monolithic sites and pyramids

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from an ancient age that puzzle the

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professionals even today but assuming

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there must not be much more to know as

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to not interfere with their detective

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work as to who might be revealed as the

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next Masked Singer it's as if a string

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of pointless redundant distractions and

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stressful soulless obligations keep the

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majority of the herd from doing anything

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but trying to get through the next day

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but the work and life story of today's

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guest howdy mikowski can provide the

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best medicine for the mundane mental

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mind rut many might be experiencing

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because he found himself depressed and

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unfulfilled at the ripe old age of 28

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but after having come across a program

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that took a deeper dive into the Great

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Pyramids he decided to dedicate his

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energy to studying the ancient world and

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a deeper examination of Egypt spiraled

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out into time spent with the Korean Zen

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monk Native American medicine men a

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doctor of medical Qigong herbalists and

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Alchemists he spent his time traveling

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to the locations he studied and

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chronicled his work in his first book

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The Power of then revealing Egypt's Lost

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Wisdom at 36 he fell into a canyon in

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western Canada and had a near-death

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experience that revealed the false

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covering of oneself and of reality which

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led him to study Gnostic and hermetic

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teachings and explore the challenges of

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dealing with an Awakening which came to

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be put in the pages of his second book

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Falling For Truth as well as firing his

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newest book which certainly kicked it up

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a level exit the cave ending The

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Reincarnation trap but throughout his

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travels and examinations howdy started

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to see a lot of holes in the historic

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narrative and conventional timeline from

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Gothic cathedrals in the Knights Templar

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to Exotic Energy Technologies and the

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world's fairs much of which is in his

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book exposing the expositions you can

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find him getting into all this stuff and

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more on his YouTube channel howdy

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mikowski talks as well as his website

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egyptianwisdom reveal.com and I am

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psyched to get into it the dedicated

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deep diver Exposition exposure and death

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trap detective howdy welcome to the

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it is good to be here and that sounds

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like you know me better than I know

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myself

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I tried I try to be informed and this is

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going to be great because your work hits

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on several high notes in the alternative

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research world that I love to talk about

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and it might be the first interview to

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come out of a voicemail that you left me

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which we generally use for audience

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insights but it seems that we both have

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had some mutual fans try to get us

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together and I'm glad we're here I also

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think your story is so important

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depressed at 28 much around the same

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time I started this show as a desperate

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attempt to bring something fulfilling

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into my life but you dedicated yourself

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to a study of your interests you travel

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to those places you formed relationships

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with some really interesting people and

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now you're putting out your fourth book

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and have tens of thousands of people

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following your work and it seems like

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you really did Forge a self-directed

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path and I think that's something many

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people could learn from

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thanks it's been a very in one sense

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rewarding 25 years or so and it's been a

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very challenging 25 years of course and

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we can talk about both sides of it

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there's been a lot of yeah a lot of pain

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along with a lot of the joys and where

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would you like to start where would you

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like to begin the my sharing with you

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sure well I thought before we got into

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the latest book I hoped we could talk

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about some of the work you've done along

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the way when you started studying

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ancient Egypt what were some of the

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first real mind blowers that made you

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dive into such a degree that you wrote a

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whole book on it

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well of course I I grew up as sort of a

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pretty simplistic normal person I grew

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up as a hockey player in Canada semi

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stand-up comedian I was a stand-up

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comedian for 12 years most people don't

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know that and love that yeah I had some

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difficult tragedies though early in my

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life my father was a psychopath and uh

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stole all my money just as I was going

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into my last year of University and

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pretty much made it very very difficult

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to finish my University degree I did I

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came up with a history degree but it was

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very tough and then just after

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University ended my ex-girlfriend was

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murdered and the combination of these

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two experiences on me

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it started the beginning of sending me

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into a very depressed spiral but it was

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a depressed spiral trying to answer

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questions that I was realizing that the

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way the world had been presented to me

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which was how you were supposed to live

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didn't actually match the experiences

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now of the trauma in the world so I was

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already in this turmoil

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and when I reached the height of my

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depression in early 1997 and I was

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actually at the point of wanting to kill

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myself I just I couldn't think of a good

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way to do it that wouldn't be messy for

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the person having to find it and I was

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in this state it was right around my

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birthday and a television program came

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on uh Nova pyramid building program

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and it was like instantaneous almost

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like a universal setup if you can put it

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that way and it was like I knew that's

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what I had to put my focus on there was

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a secret in ancient Egypt and I had to

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go track it down not so much necessarily

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to fix the world or heal a world but I

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just needed to know it for myself

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and I got really lucky at the beginning

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because while I had a history degree I

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didn't have an archaeological background

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so I was free to explore and one of the

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first books I happened to take out of

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the library was John Anthony West

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serpent in the sky and as soon as I read

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serpent in the sky which put me into

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schweiler de lubitz's ideas around the

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temples of Karnak and Luxor it was that

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in itself was the immediate mind-blowing

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experience

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it showed me that it's obvious the

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standard story that archeology and

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egyptology had was incorrect

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this was further of course realized once

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I got to Giza into Joshua and to abusir

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Etc and could see the stones and see the

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cuts and see the carving and see the the

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quality of the work that is impossible

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with the supposed Stone tool and copper

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tools and that's where it sort of began

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the combination of a whole new potential

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way of seeing the ancient world combined

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with once you start seeing the actual

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pieces that are on the ground still

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existing it starts moving you in a New

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in the research then yeah

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hmm yeah one thing I've pulled out of

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previous conversations where you talked

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about this a little bit is you had said

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that you were told what's below the

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geyser Plateau is more exciting and

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important than what's on the surface and

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I'm always intrigued by the wild stuff

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we find underground and it seems to be

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no exception in the uh Giza Plateau huh

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no that knows some true stories one was

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a gentleman that I met sort of I might

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call them a local keeper of knowledge

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who on the first day I was ever at the

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Giza Plateau we made a deal and he took

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me into underground Caverns all

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throughout the plateau sort of more

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between the Sphinx and the coffee

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pyramid so in that area is these very

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deep Long shafts it was very difficult

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to go down and there was smaller

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underground temples that he showed me

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but he was very clear that this is only

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a minor piece of it and I can't show you

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much more this is all that I can show

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you of it okay fast forward to my next

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trip and I was walking kind of in the

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same area I was going a little bit

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further

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and there were two soldiers standing

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there which is very rare you never see

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soldiers on a Giza plateau

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but I I know how to talk to no matter

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who it is on the plateau and what I've

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learned some Arabic and I know what to

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say do not have people

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cause me any problems while I'm there

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and as soon as I got a little closer

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they pulled up rifles and pointed them

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at me and made it very clear I better

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back off

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when I got to Luxor and talked to a

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friend of mine down there who who has

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quite a good knowledge of what's going

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on behind the scenes in in Cairo told me

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that it was his understanding that I had

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walked into the exact same time that the

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members of the government were down in a

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shaft on the Giza plateau and claiming

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to have found a time travel device that

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the ancient Egyptians had or the we call

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the pre-egyptians Hat

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and what was going on apparently I guess

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right at that moment when I was there is

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they were trying to make a decision do

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they try to test the device in the place

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where it is I.E not move it or do they

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try to move it to the Cairo Museum or

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some other safe place where they access

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it somewhere else and they were having

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this big discussion on should they move

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this time travel device or not and given

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the experience I had on the plateau and

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how strange the whole day was I'm

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leaning to that was probably a very true

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piece of information I got

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wow well we are in it now it doesn't get

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much Stranger than that but the idea

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that there's a lot of stuff beneath the

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Giza plateau and that you were able to

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talk your way into seeing some of it

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jives with what I've heard from your

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stories looking into Gothic Cathedrals

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across Europe that if you approach

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people the right way

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come in with the right energy sometimes

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they'll take you to see things and

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you've seen the basement of old

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Cathedrals under the Crips and you've

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said that typically these Cathedrals

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were all built on previous temples

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temples of Isis and Diana and it seems

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like you've gotten a pretty good look at

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some of that stuff too right as good as

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I think somebody who's not completely

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interconnected with the system can get

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and and yeah it's a combination I guess

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of asking the right way and it's also

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being confident to ask a lot of times

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doors will open to you but so many

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people are just afraid to ask that

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question and I know that when I'm on the

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search it's just ask if I get rejected

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fine I get rejected but don't walk away

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saying I wished I had asked I wished I

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checked I wished I had gone there and

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when you get down to some of these

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Cathedrals unfortunately I couldn't get

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down in chartres I tried really hard

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when I was in Chargers but I couldn't

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get down there but in some of the other

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European Cathedrals when you're in the

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basement you'll still often have the you

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call them a sarcophagus box but it's

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more like a recapitulation or an energy

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box right it's a place of retuning your

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your energy frequency those are still

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down there columns are still down there

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parts of the temple still remain and

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once you get below floor level in some

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of these places you're actually overcome

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with a pretty heavy duty energy and when

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it comes to Europe itself the only other

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place that I found with a strong energy

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as in a couple of the cathedrals I've

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been in those basements is avebury in

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England Avery is another place that I

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was literally my legs were on fire when

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I was there as I was moving because most

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people don't realize that Avery's

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actually sent out like a giant serpent

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on the ground it's like the Kundalini

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serpent similar to what you have in the

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United States at Serpent Mound in Ohio

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and I walked the whole thing and as I'd

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walked Ian finally made it into the main

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Circle yeah my legs were on fire they

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were actually burning from the kind of

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energy that was there and these are

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reminders to me that whatever the

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Ancients were doing and we can't be

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fully sure what they were doing it's

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personal speculation personal thesis

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you're like I have a thesis myself but

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that doesn't mean it's true and nobody

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should believe what someone suggests the

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Ancients were doing all we can do is tap

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into some of what's there get a sense of

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it and without doubt the energetic

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structures of these ancient sites even

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today thousands of years after they're

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usually tens of thousands of years after

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their use are still that strong that

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they can like like literally if I

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thought if I Stood Still I'm going to

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burn up that's how much energy was at

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Avery and then like I'm sure you've

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heard the other interviews I go to

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Stonehenge and there's nothing

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hmm

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curious curious

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energy and timelines I mean those are

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major themes of the day and I wanted to

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fast forward to this part of the story

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where you write on your about page that

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following a study trip to Florence new

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information came to light of the lies of

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modern history and this is really

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interesting because when you were

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looking at these Cathedrals I've heard

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you say that you started looking at them

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as energy structures and I've heard you

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say that when you take religion out of

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it you're looking at a machine which is

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very provocative elaborate on this part

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of your work for us and some of these

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lies of modern history that you

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uncovered through this process

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yeah so I was lucky enough to spend the

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time with the Zen monk who was a great

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teacher for me and

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fabulous wild stories from him the

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medicine men were

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different kind of teachers taught me

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very different kinds of things and I

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took a lot of that with me to the

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ancient sites

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I know for sure I couldn't have tapped

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might say tapped in or seen what I I've

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managed to see at some of these sites

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I've had experiences of walls changing

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disappearing

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amazing experiences but it's linked to

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who I was lucky enough to meet 25 years

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ago and they were kind enough to spend

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their time with me and teach me some

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so I I was working at all whether we

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Toyota walk-in or Palenque in Mexico

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whether it be these sites in Egypt sites

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through Europe it was finding these

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energy structures finding that the way

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they were built was generating you might

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say a particular charge and I began

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getting the sense that and I hadn't had

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this for a long time it was maybe around

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2018 that I started recognizing that the

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cathedrals themselves these great Gothic

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cathedrals

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are so similar to the temple layouts of

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Karnak and luxorum so I wanted to go and

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now experience them the way I would an

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ancient Temple so go to them a little

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differently and I the best example of it

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was in a city called Nantes in the west

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part of France on the coast and they

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have a cathedral there called the

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Cathedral of Saint Nicholas if you ever

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get a chance to go the main one that

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caught fire a few years ago was in the

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middle of town that's what get most of

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the tourists this one gets almost no

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tourists fabulous fabulous Cathedral and

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I stood underneath the main Dome

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and I could feel like literally a bolt

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of energy was coming directly down from

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the dome right under me and I could kind

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of follow it I could watch it move and I

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don't remember what the names are of the

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aisles of a cathedral what are the name

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of the sides of a cathedral do you know

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what the name of that is Greg pews no

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not not the places where you sit I mean

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like there's always like a central area

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where all the the seating is but then

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there's usually a set of columns and

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then there's still like what look like

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walkways or you know their passages on

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the sides of the church okay anyway I

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could feel the energy would come down

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and it would start swirling in a

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circular motion around the outside of

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the church it wasn't going unnecessarily

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inside it was swirling on the outside

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and I noticed the rose windows and in

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this particular case the rose windows

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were obvious cymatic patterns if you

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could put these patterns through the

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waves of and sand you would know exactly

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what the pattern was so I could see the

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combination of the energy moving the

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giant organ when it started to play and

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again of course the name Oregon so it's

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related to the human organ it's related

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to the energy system that with the

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energy the organ and Blasting that

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energy out of those Rose Windows which

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would change the cymatic energy into an

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exact frequency my guess is that not

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only would when it was fully operational

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I don't think these are fully

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operational anymore but when they were

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fully operational I'm pretty sure you

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could just be healed by going into these

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Cathedrals that you wouldn't really

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needed doctors too much you could have

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just gone there and healed most

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everything you would have and then this

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energy would be going out to the city

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which depending on how the rose windows

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are structured you're moving a balance

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you're moving on Harmony you're moving

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out whatever you feel you need for your

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population

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honestly it was it was an awe-inspiring

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experience

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but that wasn't as much of it once I got

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home I came back here to Norway somehow

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I bumped into the world expositions

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particularly the Chicago exposition of

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1893 and I and it was like just coming

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like literally right out of the

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cathedrals of Florence and tracking the

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energy there and all of a sudden I'm

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looking at the same buildings the same

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kind of structures and once I started

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looking into the story of these

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expositions they just made no sense

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whatsoever and demanded as far as I was

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concerned demanded a complete study on

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it I saw no one had written a book yet

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on the strangeness of the fair so I

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thought okay I'm an author so I'll

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research it and write a book I thought

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I'd do it in two or three months I got

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through nine or ten months and I had to

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just stop because I knew I could be

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researching this for 20 years

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yes yes that is super interesting and

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just the last couple thousand years in

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particular do have some holes in it or

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seem kind of strange I mean I'm really

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interested in re-examining the timeline

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and the idea of resets and it's a little

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strange that we have the Dark Ages

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followed by this explosion and the

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Renaissance all the gothic cathedrals

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you know if this is some sort of

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simulation that sounds like one of those

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wipe the Slate clean periods right

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before the Renaissance and maybe who

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knows exactly how it works out but what

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are your thoughts on you know that

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period of 500 A.D the start of the Dark

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Ages on through the Renaissance and you

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know then we'll maybe get into the world

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fairs but do you have any thoughts on

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that earlier period

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well from that particular research I

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started to realize well obviously the

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history we have of the 1800s is a lie

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and so the more you look back in the

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past I had to start questioning

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everything

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even like say the Renaissance is that is

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that a real thing

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we don't know for sure if that's a real

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thing we have some stories we have some

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events we have some after the fact

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information we have some very unique

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buildings and artwork but we don't

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really know where they came from who did

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them and why they did them so I've kind

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of had to step back and say

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I'm not really sure what the heck's

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going on I know that guy famenco talked

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about there was a thousand years added

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to history and there's a lot of his

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stuff I kind of tend to distance myself

545
00:20:45,409 --> 00:20:43,020
from because I find it a bit concerning

546
00:20:47,330 --> 00:20:45,419
but this idea that

547
00:20:49,669 --> 00:20:47,340
obviously we really don't know what year

548
00:20:52,070 --> 00:20:49,679
it is and

549
00:20:56,270 --> 00:20:52,080
once you start popping in this idea of

550
00:20:58,549 --> 00:20:56,280
resets this idea that this entire and

551
00:21:01,909 --> 00:20:58,559
we'll call it human specifically The

552
00:21:03,230 --> 00:21:01,919
Human Experience in this realm is what

553
00:21:05,870 --> 00:21:03,240
you might say constantly being

554
00:21:08,450 --> 00:21:05,880
manipulated and constantly being

555
00:21:11,090 --> 00:21:08,460
as I try to say energy upgraded for

556
00:21:13,130 --> 00:21:11,100
various reasons a lot of these times in

557
00:21:14,870 --> 00:21:13,140
our history start to make potential

558
00:21:17,690 --> 00:21:14,880
sense when you start to look at them

559
00:21:19,190 --> 00:21:17,700
from different angles like is the end of

560
00:21:21,470 --> 00:21:19,200
whatever we consider the Roman Empire

561
00:21:24,049 --> 00:21:21,480
whenever that officially occurred that's

562
00:21:26,390 --> 00:21:24,059
a type of reset that you literally wipe

563
00:21:27,650 --> 00:21:26,400
out one type of culture one type of

564
00:21:29,570 --> 00:21:27,660
living and replace it with something

565
00:21:31,730 --> 00:21:29,580
else and we maybe see that same thing

566
00:21:33,770 --> 00:21:31,740
happen in the 1800s and I hate to say it

567
00:21:35,690 --> 00:21:33,780
we're seeing it right now people don't

568
00:21:38,090 --> 00:21:35,700
want to admit but we're actually seeing

569
00:21:39,890 --> 00:21:38,100
it now and that's where the study of

570
00:21:41,630 --> 00:21:39,900
these events that you're talking about

571
00:21:43,610 --> 00:21:41,640
are actually important not to learn the

572
00:21:45,470 --> 00:21:43,620
past that's not so important it's to

573
00:21:47,390 --> 00:21:45,480
what does that tell us about right now

574
00:21:49,970 --> 00:21:47,400
how can we use that information to stay

575
00:21:52,789 --> 00:21:49,980
one step ahead of what's going to occur

576
00:21:54,049 --> 00:21:52,799
here based on if we can figure out what

577
00:21:57,049 --> 00:21:54,059
happened then

578
00:21:58,310 --> 00:21:57,059
mm-hmm I totally agree with you it does

579
00:22:00,230 --> 00:21:58,320
seem like they're gearing up for

580
00:22:03,049 --> 00:22:00,240
something big and if these resets have

581
00:22:05,029 --> 00:22:03,059
happened in the past well we are in the

582
00:22:07,490 --> 00:22:05,039
middle of a story so you would think

583
00:22:09,770 --> 00:22:07,500
they would happen again but I just

584
00:22:11,930 --> 00:22:09,780
wanted to maybe dig into what you said

585
00:22:14,270 --> 00:22:11,940
about some concerning aspects of

586
00:22:16,250 --> 00:22:14,280
fomenko's work and what you might have

587
00:22:18,830 --> 00:22:16,260
been talking about there we've talked

588
00:22:20,390 --> 00:22:18,840
about fomenko's work before but I don't

589
00:22:22,549 --> 00:22:20,400
know how many listeners have actually

590
00:22:24,770 --> 00:22:22,559
read it or gotten into it to the depth

591
00:22:26,450 --> 00:22:24,780
that you have I assume you think the

592
00:22:28,850 --> 00:22:26,460
concerning aspects are kind of the

593
00:22:29,930 --> 00:22:28,860
russian-centric perspective but you tell

594
00:22:31,970 --> 00:22:29,940
me

595
00:22:34,310 --> 00:22:31,980
B well that's one

596
00:22:36,490 --> 00:22:34,320
everybody tends to be writing history

597
00:22:39,409 --> 00:22:36,500
from their own perspective and their own

598
00:22:41,810 --> 00:22:39,419
Centric idea of course

599
00:22:43,909 --> 00:22:41,820
my concerns were when he was talking

600
00:22:46,789 --> 00:22:43,919
about the more ancient past for example

601
00:22:49,070 --> 00:22:46,799
ancient Egypt given that that's been a

602
00:22:50,690 --> 00:22:49,080
10 or 15 was a 10 or 15 year study of

603
00:22:52,669 --> 00:22:50,700
mine and he was sort of trying to

604
00:22:55,610 --> 00:22:52,679
indicate that Napoleon soldiers built

605
00:22:57,710 --> 00:22:55,620
the pyramids right and uh

606
00:22:59,990 --> 00:22:57,720
that's obviously spoken by somebody

607
00:23:02,450 --> 00:23:00,000
who's never been there someone who's

608
00:23:03,710 --> 00:23:02,460
never actually been not just to see the

609
00:23:06,350 --> 00:23:03,720
construction work because the

610
00:23:08,029 --> 00:23:06,360
construction of and it doesn't matter

611
00:23:09,470 --> 00:23:08,039
the three pyramids on the Giza Plateau

612
00:23:11,169 --> 00:23:09,480
you could look at the ones at doshu or

613
00:23:15,409 --> 00:23:11,179
you look at some of the other giants

614
00:23:17,810 --> 00:23:15,419
that are obviously old unique different

615
00:23:19,370 --> 00:23:17,820
from everything else so never mind the

616
00:23:21,830 --> 00:23:19,380
construction techniques it's once you

617
00:23:24,409 --> 00:23:21,840
start getting into the what happens with

618
00:23:26,330 --> 00:23:24,419
the energy there is no pyramid anywhere

619
00:23:28,549 --> 00:23:26,340
in Egypt where I have not had an actual

620
00:23:30,649 --> 00:23:28,559
experience like the kind of thing where

621
00:23:33,649 --> 00:23:30,659
you could write eight or ten pages on

622
00:23:35,510 --> 00:23:33,659
the experience so something is beyond

623
00:23:38,330 --> 00:23:35,520
just a simple

624
00:23:40,010 --> 00:23:38,340
building process of it there literally

625
00:23:43,010 --> 00:23:40,020
is a

626
00:23:45,049 --> 00:23:43,020
it's like a portal it's a portal almost

627
00:23:46,789 --> 00:23:45,059
outside of our bubble if you think of

628
00:23:47,750 --> 00:23:46,799
this as like the bubble of The Truman

629
00:23:50,090 --> 00:23:47,760
Show

630
00:23:52,669 --> 00:23:50,100
or the way Pleasantville is set up as

631
00:23:54,529 --> 00:23:52,679
this sort of recurring Loop or any of

632
00:23:56,630 --> 00:23:54,539
these shows that kind of lost where

633
00:23:59,210 --> 00:23:56,640
they're always on the island pyramids to

634
00:24:01,789 --> 00:23:59,220
me are like exit points in and out of

635
00:24:02,690 --> 00:24:01,799
this particular bubble of reality that

636
00:24:05,690 --> 00:24:02,700
we're in

637
00:24:08,210 --> 00:24:05,700
and so because of that to think that

638
00:24:10,310 --> 00:24:08,220
a few soldiers could show up from France

639
00:24:12,649 --> 00:24:10,320
and build I think that's

640
00:24:14,570 --> 00:24:12,659
anyone who's producing information like

641
00:24:16,850 --> 00:24:14,580
this the same way egyptologists are

642
00:24:18,409 --> 00:24:16,860
trying to produce information that these

643
00:24:20,930 --> 00:24:18,419
stones that you see carved in the Giza

644
00:24:23,950 --> 00:24:20,940
Plateau these granite and basalt things

645
00:24:26,870 --> 00:24:23,960
with giant drill hole cores in them or

646
00:24:28,970 --> 00:24:26,880
perfectly curved edges are made by

647
00:24:30,649 --> 00:24:28,980
copper tools it's impossible it's

648
00:24:31,909 --> 00:24:30,659
actually impossible these are you're at

649
00:24:34,789 --> 00:24:31,919
the point of having laser type

650
00:24:37,090 --> 00:24:34,799
technology I think it's all designed in

651
00:24:40,549 --> 00:24:37,100
one way or another to

652
00:24:43,310 --> 00:24:40,559
deflect the human understanding that how

653
00:24:46,549 --> 00:24:43,320
much power we actually have what kind of

654
00:24:49,130 --> 00:24:46,559
great inner ability that not only the

655
00:24:51,350 --> 00:24:49,140
mind but the heart the entire source of

656
00:24:53,390 --> 00:24:51,360
the human being potentially has that

657
00:24:55,850 --> 00:24:53,400
we've been so cut off from for so long

658
00:24:59,090 --> 00:24:55,860
and they don't want anyone looking into

659
00:25:01,130 --> 00:24:59,100
the past when humans had access to these

660
00:25:03,470 --> 00:25:01,140
inner skills because we would start

661
00:25:05,409 --> 00:25:03,480
demanding to get them again and the

662
00:25:08,330 --> 00:25:05,419
group that's keeping us you might say

663
00:25:10,610 --> 00:25:08,340
docile and farm animals is making sure

664
00:25:12,350 --> 00:25:10,620
that we don't even think about the

665
00:25:16,250 --> 00:25:12,360
ancient world that way we want to see

666
00:25:18,409 --> 00:25:16,260
them as Savages as idiots as as slave

667
00:25:21,850 --> 00:25:18,419
holders as whatever they want to get us

668
00:25:24,370 --> 00:25:21,860
to think they are but the actual on-site

669
00:25:26,690 --> 00:25:24,380
exploration of these places indicates

670
00:25:28,370 --> 00:25:26,700
that they're literally living in a

671
00:25:30,230 --> 00:25:28,380
different Universe like I almost feel

672
00:25:33,590 --> 00:25:30,240
when I'm at Giza Plateau I'm actually

673
00:25:35,149 --> 00:25:33,600
touching a different universe it might

674
00:25:38,870 --> 00:25:35,159
still be in the same three-dimensional

675
00:25:41,029 --> 00:25:38,880
reality that I was in but I'm so at a

676
00:25:42,890 --> 00:25:41,039
different energetic frequency period

677
00:25:44,090 --> 00:25:42,900
that it's like it feels like I'm in a

678
00:25:46,549 --> 00:25:44,100
different universe same thing I get that

679
00:25:48,110 --> 00:25:46,559
Italian to walk into Mexico and it's one

680
00:25:49,610 --> 00:25:48,120
of the reasons I love going to these

681
00:25:53,090 --> 00:25:49,620
places because it felt like I was

682
00:25:54,950 --> 00:25:53,100
touching something far more I don't want

683
00:25:57,830 --> 00:25:54,960
to say real because it's that's an

684
00:26:01,430 --> 00:25:57,840
illusion itself but far more the

685
00:26:03,830 --> 00:26:01,440
possibilities of this existence are more

686
00:26:04,789 --> 00:26:03,840
in display still at those sites

687
00:26:07,610 --> 00:26:04,799
um

688
00:26:10,070 --> 00:26:07,620
wow well I do appreciate the passion and

689
00:26:12,350 --> 00:26:10,080
I agree with you that it is ignorant and

690
00:26:14,269 --> 00:26:12,360
dismissive of how impressive these

691
00:26:17,210 --> 00:26:14,279
structures are to suggest that they were

692
00:26:20,029 --> 00:26:17,220
just whipped up in a weekend and back

693
00:26:22,610 --> 00:26:20,039
casted through history it seems that the

694
00:26:25,430 --> 00:26:22,620
more reasonable perspective would be

695
00:26:28,370 --> 00:26:25,440
that there are sometimes wipes of

696
00:26:31,610 --> 00:26:28,380
humanity and then the old structures

697
00:26:33,289 --> 00:26:31,620
from the previous round still remain and

698
00:26:36,230 --> 00:26:33,299
we just don't have much information on

699
00:26:38,750 --> 00:26:36,240
them and things get repopulated and it's

700
00:26:41,090 --> 00:26:38,760
it's more kind of in that regard where

701
00:26:43,610 --> 00:26:41,100
everybody is just thrust into chaos but

702
00:26:46,250 --> 00:26:43,620
they can see The Echoes of the time

703
00:26:47,870 --> 00:26:46,260
before their most recent reset would

704
00:26:50,930 --> 00:26:47,880
that be kind of your general perspective

705
00:26:53,029 --> 00:26:50,940
of how things work in this reality

706
00:26:54,830 --> 00:26:53,039
yeah most definitely and when it comes

707
00:26:56,570 --> 00:26:54,840
to the pyramids I got a really good

708
00:26:58,789 --> 00:26:56,580
piece of information from a Russian

709
00:27:01,730 --> 00:26:58,799
researcher who died six or seven years

710
00:27:02,870 --> 00:27:01,740
ago Alexi I'd have to remember his name

711
00:27:05,630 --> 00:27:02,880
he's with the place called the

712
00:27:09,710 --> 00:27:05,640
laboratory of it'll come to me as we

713
00:27:11,690 --> 00:27:09,720
talk okay but he was presenting that a

714
00:27:14,690 --> 00:27:11,700
lot of what we see of what we think of

715
00:27:16,250 --> 00:27:14,700
as sort of crude tunnel systems and

716
00:27:18,049 --> 00:27:16,260
whatever to some of these pyramid

717
00:27:20,269 --> 00:27:18,059
structures that kind of don't fit so

718
00:27:23,169 --> 00:27:20,279
well with the Perfect Design sometimes

719
00:27:26,810 --> 00:27:23,179
that's the ancient Egyptians doing

720
00:27:29,269 --> 00:27:26,820
archaeological work themselves that what

721
00:27:31,310 --> 00:27:29,279
we think of as faronic Egypt Old Kingdom

722
00:27:34,250 --> 00:27:31,320
Egypt didn't build any of these things

723
00:27:36,350 --> 00:27:34,260
in fact they are so old that by the time

724
00:27:37,549 --> 00:27:36,360
pharonic Egypt showed up even with all

725
00:27:40,070 --> 00:27:37,559
of their knowledge and all of their

726
00:27:41,630 --> 00:27:40,080
power they still had no idea what they

727
00:27:44,090 --> 00:27:41,640
were dealing with and they were

728
00:27:46,909 --> 00:27:44,100
literally doing their own archaeological

729
00:27:48,769 --> 00:27:46,919
digs trying to figure out what these

730
00:27:51,049 --> 00:27:48,779
things are and how you use them and once

731
00:27:53,269 --> 00:27:51,059
that information got into my head it was

732
00:27:56,269 --> 00:27:53,279
like oh okay it makes sense now what I'm

733
00:27:59,750 --> 00:27:56,279
seeing I could now start to categorize

734
00:28:01,610 --> 00:27:59,760
okay what's old old pre-egypt What's

735
00:28:03,169 --> 00:28:01,620
Done by the pharaonic Egyptians What's

736
00:28:05,630 --> 00:28:03,179
Done by some later Egyptians you could

737
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:05,640
actually start seeing the periods of

738
00:28:08,990 --> 00:28:07,770
time of when this was put together

739
00:28:10,970 --> 00:28:09,000
[Music]

740
00:28:13,490 --> 00:28:10,980
well in terms of looking at the the

741
00:28:15,169 --> 00:28:13,500
timeline broadly I definitely think

742
00:28:16,730 --> 00:28:15,179
that's super interesting to think of

743
00:28:18,649 --> 00:28:16,740
them as doing their own excavation

744
00:28:21,169 --> 00:28:18,659
because we think about these as kind of

745
00:28:22,850 --> 00:28:21,179
like all this happened at once we just

746
00:28:25,370 --> 00:28:22,860
don't know about what's underground and

747
00:28:26,990 --> 00:28:25,380
it's it's just a kind of a Twist on what

748
00:28:29,870 --> 00:28:27,000
you'd usually think but

749
00:28:33,169 --> 00:28:29,880
when looking at the Timeline broadly how

750
00:28:37,490 --> 00:28:33,179
do you think they create such chaos and

751
00:28:41,570 --> 00:28:37,500
Devastation as to completely get people

752
00:28:43,850 --> 00:28:41,580
confused or erase their memory of the

753
00:28:45,769 --> 00:28:43,860
previous time before reset What

754
00:28:48,470 --> 00:28:45,779
mechanisms do you think are used for

755
00:28:51,590 --> 00:28:48,480
resets and I mean is this done at a

756
00:28:53,630 --> 00:28:51,600
level higher than our Elite or is this

757
00:28:55,909 --> 00:28:53,640
something that's done kind of on the on

758
00:28:58,730 --> 00:28:55,919
the Capstone cabal level

759
00:29:00,710 --> 00:28:58,740
I think it's beyond that I think if you

760
00:29:01,690 --> 00:29:00,720
start to see this as a simulation as a

761
00:29:05,090 --> 00:29:01,700
type of

762
00:29:06,289 --> 00:29:05,100
computerized AI manufactured reality and

763
00:29:08,330 --> 00:29:06,299
that's not really true I don't want

764
00:29:09,950 --> 00:29:08,340
anyone to think that is what reality is

765
00:29:12,409 --> 00:29:09,960
but it's a decent metaphor for the

766
00:29:15,289 --> 00:29:12,419
standpoint of trying to you know have a

767
00:29:17,390 --> 00:29:15,299
discussion about it so these things

768
00:29:19,430 --> 00:29:17,400
would be happening like literally from

769
00:29:21,169 --> 00:29:19,440
the Mainframe of the computer itself the

770
00:29:23,450 --> 00:29:21,179
changes would be coming from there and

771
00:29:25,250 --> 00:29:23,460
if things need to be done by you might

772
00:29:26,450 --> 00:29:25,260
say the level below the level below the

773
00:29:28,310 --> 00:29:26,460
level below they just get the

774
00:29:30,409 --> 00:29:28,320
information and know what to do

775
00:29:33,710 --> 00:29:30,419
of course the easiest way to do this

776
00:29:37,310 --> 00:29:33,720
which I think you see through the 1800s

777
00:29:38,690 --> 00:29:37,320
to the world fairs is this idea of wipe

778
00:29:40,850 --> 00:29:38,700
out a large segment of the adult

779
00:29:42,830 --> 00:29:40,860
population specifically

780
00:29:45,350 --> 00:29:42,840
and leave yourself with a mostly child

781
00:29:48,769 --> 00:29:45,360
population if you have mostly children

782
00:29:51,230 --> 00:29:48,779
left after a giant series of

783
00:29:52,970 --> 00:29:51,240
distractions that child population is

784
00:29:55,070 --> 00:29:52,980
going to be believing whatever you're

785
00:29:56,570 --> 00:29:55,080
telling them right they're ripe for

786
00:29:58,250 --> 00:29:56,580
information they don't really have any

787
00:30:00,350 --> 00:29:58,260
knowledge themselves there's no one else

788
00:30:03,049 --> 00:30:00,360
there that can give them a different

789
00:30:04,610 --> 00:30:03,059
story or a different idea

790
00:30:06,409 --> 00:30:04,620
that's the first thing you would do

791
00:30:08,630 --> 00:30:06,419
would be to have start with a child

792
00:30:11,990 --> 00:30:08,640
population and within a generation

793
00:30:14,210 --> 00:30:12,000
within 40 50 years most of the old

794
00:30:16,130 --> 00:30:14,220
knowledge would be wiped out

795
00:30:18,409 --> 00:30:16,140
if you were looking at older cultures

796
00:30:21,289 --> 00:30:18,419
then you would find ways to implant

797
00:30:24,350 --> 00:30:21,299
different mythology different stories

798
00:30:27,110 --> 00:30:24,360
into their standard myths that begin to

799
00:30:29,330 --> 00:30:27,120
confuse those who hear them that they're

800
00:30:30,830 --> 00:30:29,340
hearing one myth that says one thing one

801
00:30:32,450 --> 00:30:30,840
myth that says something else and

802
00:30:33,710 --> 00:30:32,460
everything starts to get confused and

803
00:30:35,090 --> 00:30:33,720
they're not really sure what to believe

804
00:30:37,310 --> 00:30:35,100
anymore

805
00:30:38,870 --> 00:30:37,320
I know that one of the medicine men that

806
00:30:40,250 --> 00:30:38,880
I had spent some time with he was very

807
00:30:42,049 --> 00:30:40,260
clear that

808
00:30:43,490 --> 00:30:42,059
when I would go in his sweat lodge he

809
00:30:45,289 --> 00:30:43,500
would tell me you know whatever we

810
00:30:46,610 --> 00:30:45,299
experience here and whatever we do and

811
00:30:48,710 --> 00:30:46,620
whatever I can do this is nothing

812
00:30:51,769 --> 00:30:48,720
compared to like 500 years ago we've

813
00:30:53,269 --> 00:30:51,779
lost almost all of the main ceremonies

814
00:30:54,889 --> 00:30:53,279
all of the main knowledge that the

815
00:30:58,909 --> 00:30:54,899
medicine people used to have the little

816
00:31:01,850 --> 00:30:58,919
bit he's carrying which seems fantastic

817
00:31:04,669 --> 00:31:01,860
to be there he's acknowledging it's like

818
00:31:07,070 --> 00:31:04,679
10 of what the old ones used to know and

819
00:31:08,330 --> 00:31:07,080
again we're just as you begin to process

820
00:31:11,090 --> 00:31:08,340
this just

821
00:31:13,850 --> 00:31:11,100
how much on so many levels of knowledge

822
00:31:16,370 --> 00:31:13,860
and wisdom we've lost in the reality on

823
00:31:18,289 --> 00:31:16,380
the positive side it seems like these

824
00:31:20,029 --> 00:31:18,299
last two or three years

825
00:31:21,590 --> 00:31:20,039
and I don't think just because of the

826
00:31:23,149 --> 00:31:21,600
last two or three years but because of

827
00:31:26,389 --> 00:31:23,159
something that's happening energetically

828
00:31:28,130 --> 00:31:26,399
to our realm there are so many pieces of

829
00:31:30,350 --> 00:31:28,140
this old knowledge and old wisdom

830
00:31:32,210 --> 00:31:30,360
pushing their way back up for those who

831
00:31:34,970 --> 00:31:32,220
want to know it and explore it so as

832
00:31:36,769 --> 00:31:34,980
much as this is a giant set of chaos

833
00:31:39,049 --> 00:31:36,779
insanity

834
00:31:41,450 --> 00:31:39,059
it's also a great doorway it's like

835
00:31:43,730 --> 00:31:41,460
doorways are open right now to anybody

836
00:31:45,769 --> 00:31:43,740
who wants to really get to the truth of

837
00:31:48,590 --> 00:31:45,779
themselves this reality all sorts of

838
00:31:50,090 --> 00:31:48,600
things it's here right now and a lot of

839
00:31:53,149 --> 00:31:50,100
these things that we're sort of having

840
00:31:55,850 --> 00:31:53,159
speculation about are I think becoming

841
00:31:58,490 --> 00:31:55,860
more and more available to knowledge for

842
00:32:01,370 --> 00:31:58,500
whoever wants to know them very well

843
00:32:04,970 --> 00:32:01,380
said and I'm glad you brought up what

844
00:32:07,010 --> 00:32:04,980
you heard from some of these indigenous

845
00:32:10,310 --> 00:32:07,020
spiritual teachers that you've spent

846
00:32:12,350 --> 00:32:10,320
time with because on top of the World's

847
00:32:14,510 --> 00:32:12,360
Fair stuff there's also a video you have

848
00:32:17,930 --> 00:32:14,520
on your YouTube channel about this old

849
00:32:19,610 --> 00:32:17,940
Panorama of San Francisco from 1878.

850
00:32:21,409 --> 00:32:19,620
it's actually your most popular YouTube

851
00:32:23,510 --> 00:32:21,419
video out of everything that you've done

852
00:32:26,029 --> 00:32:23,520
you've made a lot of good points there

853
00:32:27,950 --> 00:32:26,039
the city looks complete but there are no

854
00:32:31,549 --> 00:32:27,960
people in the streets no hustle and

855
00:32:33,289 --> 00:32:31,559
bustle in a full 360 degree image from

856
00:32:36,049 --> 00:32:33,299
the center of the city there's

857
00:32:38,630 --> 00:32:36,059
Cathedrals and domed buildings all

858
00:32:40,789 --> 00:32:38,640
supposedly built by Cowboys and miners

859
00:32:43,010 --> 00:32:40,799
from the Gold Rush which you suggest

860
00:32:46,310 --> 00:32:43,020
might be one of those cover stories for

861
00:32:49,190 --> 00:32:46,320
a repopulation effort when they found

862
00:32:51,529 --> 00:32:49,200
this city kind of as it was and I bring

863
00:32:53,570 --> 00:32:51,539
that up because you have spent time with

864
00:32:55,549 --> 00:32:53,580
Native American medicine men have you

865
00:32:58,610 --> 00:32:55,559
ever asked them about their version of

866
00:33:01,070 --> 00:32:58,620
history and who could have built a city

867
00:33:03,230 --> 00:33:01,080
like San Francisco if it wasn't as we

868
00:33:05,510 --> 00:33:03,240
were told it was built yeah

869
00:33:08,510 --> 00:33:05,520
unfortunately and I feel like I wished I

870
00:33:10,669 --> 00:33:08,520
had known these insights or had studied

871
00:33:12,649 --> 00:33:10,679
these insights 25 years ago when I was

872
00:33:14,570 --> 00:33:12,659
with them I think only one of the

873
00:33:16,370 --> 00:33:14,580
medicine people I had worked with is

874
00:33:17,090 --> 00:33:16,380
still alive

875
00:33:19,009 --> 00:33:17,100
um

876
00:33:21,590 --> 00:33:19,019
and no so I haven't been back to North

877
00:33:23,930 --> 00:33:21,600
America for a long long time and haven't

878
00:33:27,649 --> 00:33:23,940
seen these gentlemen directly for

879
00:33:29,570 --> 00:33:27,659
10 or 15 years so unfortunately I

880
00:33:32,330 --> 00:33:29,580
haven't been able to ask them my hope is

881
00:33:34,970 --> 00:33:32,340
that some others out there who are still

882
00:33:38,750 --> 00:33:34,980
because someone like your channel here

883
00:33:40,850 --> 00:33:38,760
has a lot of really interesting good

884
00:33:43,490 --> 00:33:40,860
researching people that are listening to

885
00:33:46,370 --> 00:33:43,500
these shows and I know people are

886
00:33:48,289 --> 00:33:46,380
connected still in North America to some

887
00:33:50,990 --> 00:33:48,299
Native Indians that they know it would

888
00:33:52,549 --> 00:33:51,000
be great if you had access go and ask go

889
00:33:53,930 --> 00:33:52,559
and look up some of the things that Greg

890
00:33:55,310 --> 00:33:53,940
has just talked about if this is new to

891
00:33:57,649 --> 00:33:55,320
you whether it be San Francisco or the

892
00:33:59,630 --> 00:33:57,659
world fairs or the possibility of this

893
00:34:02,090 --> 00:33:59,640
giant civilization in North America

894
00:34:03,830 --> 00:34:02,100
existing long before it was supposed to

895
00:34:05,389 --> 00:34:03,840
and if you have access to any of the

896
00:34:07,610 --> 00:34:05,399
medicine men please go and ask them and

897
00:34:10,849 --> 00:34:07,620
if you get answers get in touch with me

898
00:34:12,230 --> 00:34:10,859
I I really like to know because I really

899
00:34:15,290 --> 00:34:12,240
don't have that same kind of access

900
00:34:17,810 --> 00:34:15,300
anymore I wished I did but I don't fair

901
00:34:19,909 --> 00:34:17,820
fair points and uh you're only one man

902
00:34:22,190 --> 00:34:19,919
you can only be expected to do so much

903
00:34:24,230 --> 00:34:22,200
but the call has been

904
00:34:27,169 --> 00:34:24,240
levied against the audience and we will

905
00:34:28,550 --> 00:34:27,179
see what people come up with but I think

906
00:34:29,750 --> 00:34:28,560
that's an important concern Greg I think

907
00:34:32,030 --> 00:34:29,760
that's a really that's also an important

908
00:34:33,770 --> 00:34:32,040
comment to make here is that I'm only

909
00:34:36,290 --> 00:34:33,780
one person just like all the researchers

910
00:34:38,810 --> 00:34:36,300
are only one person and

911
00:34:40,250 --> 00:34:38,820
it hurts me sometimes when I feel or see

912
00:34:41,329 --> 00:34:40,260
some of the researchers and it doesn't

913
00:34:43,849 --> 00:34:41,339
matter what field whether it's in

914
00:34:46,550 --> 00:34:43,859
metaphysics philosophy and they sort of

915
00:34:48,409 --> 00:34:46,560
try to own their research or block off

916
00:34:50,389 --> 00:34:48,419
anything else and the only way we're

917
00:34:52,730 --> 00:34:50,399
going to know things is each one of us

918
00:34:54,770 --> 00:34:52,740
find a small piece of the jigsaw puzzle

919
00:34:57,290 --> 00:34:54,780
bring them to everybody and put them all

920
00:34:59,810 --> 00:34:57,300
together into one giant in the puzzle

921
00:35:01,430 --> 00:34:59,820
together if we're holding back our peace

922
00:35:03,050 --> 00:35:01,440
we're never going to see the whole we

923
00:35:05,450 --> 00:35:03,060
have to find the piece that's ours

924
00:35:07,490 --> 00:35:05,460
defined share it with the group that we

925
00:35:08,990 --> 00:35:07,500
can share it with and see what happens

926
00:35:11,150 --> 00:35:09,000
when we put them all together I think

927
00:35:13,190 --> 00:35:11,160
it's a really important thing that if we

928
00:35:16,450 --> 00:35:13,200
don't share this stuff we're never going

929
00:35:19,010 --> 00:35:16,460
to see the next level yes cheers to that

930
00:35:22,069 --> 00:35:19,020
and just to go back to the idea of a

931
00:35:23,930 --> 00:35:22,079
repopulation effort I've heard of Orphan

932
00:35:27,470 --> 00:35:23,940
trains and there are some pretty wild

933
00:35:30,550 --> 00:35:27,480
stories of kids being transported long

934
00:35:33,349 --> 00:35:30,560
distances across the U.S from apparently

935
00:35:37,190 --> 00:35:33,359
all over the world I've heard from South

936
00:35:39,410 --> 00:35:37,200
America I've heard from Europe and the

937
00:35:41,870 --> 00:35:39,420
reasons for this are usually pretty

938
00:35:44,690 --> 00:35:41,880
flimsy but what would you say in terms

939
00:35:46,370 --> 00:35:44,700
of evidence that we can look at or

940
00:35:49,970 --> 00:35:46,380
stories we have

941
00:35:51,950 --> 00:35:49,980
that involve the transportation or the

942
00:35:53,750 --> 00:35:51,960
movement of large numbers of children

943
00:35:55,490 --> 00:35:53,760
for the people who are like what this

944
00:35:56,930 --> 00:35:55,500
just sounds too far out what would you

945
00:35:58,609 --> 00:35:56,940
cite as well maybe you should take

946
00:36:00,109 --> 00:35:58,619
another look at this because it might be

947
00:36:02,510 --> 00:36:00,119
actually possible

948
00:36:05,150 --> 00:36:02,520
yeah you're looking at the two elements

949
00:36:06,470 --> 00:36:05,160
first is we've got children and we're

950
00:36:07,910 --> 00:36:06,480
talking about sort of the time of the

951
00:36:09,410 --> 00:36:07,920
late 1800s here so we're talking about

952
00:36:12,230 --> 00:36:09,420
children and we're talking about insane

953
00:36:15,050 --> 00:36:12,240
asylums and they kind of go hand in hand

954
00:36:15,829 --> 00:36:15,060
with each other so we have these stories

955
00:36:25,250 --> 00:36:15,839
of

956
00:36:27,349 --> 00:36:25,260
by children it's usually presented as if

957
00:36:30,650 --> 00:36:27,359
oh it's cheap labor we're working the

958
00:36:32,690 --> 00:36:30,660
children to the Bone but realistically

959
00:36:34,790 --> 00:36:32,700
an eight-year-old kid is not going to be

960
00:36:37,910 --> 00:36:34,800
anywhere close to getting you the kind

961
00:36:39,650 --> 00:36:37,920
of quality Manpower that a human adult

962
00:36:41,270 --> 00:36:39,660
is going to give you so I'm always

963
00:36:43,430 --> 00:36:41,280
starting to wonder if we're seeing so

964
00:36:46,370 --> 00:36:43,440
many children working it's because there

965
00:36:49,010 --> 00:36:46,380
actually are no adults to work that if

966
00:36:51,349 --> 00:36:49,020
they had adults they would be using them

967
00:36:53,329 --> 00:36:51,359
and so

968
00:36:55,550 --> 00:36:53,339
I'm kind of leaning a bit to the

969
00:36:58,910 --> 00:36:55,560
possibility that we're seeing these time

970
00:37:01,069 --> 00:36:58,920
periods where literally adults had been

971
00:37:02,930 --> 00:37:01,079
eliminated and one of the areas of

972
00:37:05,150 --> 00:37:02,940
elimination of them is these insane

973
00:37:06,290 --> 00:37:05,160
asylums again go take a look at these

974
00:37:09,170 --> 00:37:06,300
things if you haven't seen them from

975
00:37:12,109 --> 00:37:09,180
like the 1870s 1880s 1890s there was an

976
00:37:13,609 --> 00:37:12,119
explosion worldwide of insane asylums

977
00:37:16,250 --> 00:37:13,619
everywhere and they're not just small

978
00:37:18,349 --> 00:37:16,260
buildings these rival Medici palaces in

979
00:37:20,089 --> 00:37:18,359
Florence they're massive and they're

980
00:37:22,730 --> 00:37:20,099
beautiful with towers and domes and

981
00:37:25,010 --> 00:37:22,740
Spirals and the question becomes why do

982
00:37:28,010 --> 00:37:25,020
you need so many insane asylums who all

983
00:37:30,290 --> 00:37:28,020
of a sudden is going insane in 1885.

984
00:37:32,390 --> 00:37:30,300
it starts to make sense if you realize

985
00:37:33,890 --> 00:37:32,400
maybe these are adults who still

986
00:37:36,050 --> 00:37:33,900
remember the old world who still

987
00:37:37,970 --> 00:37:36,060
remember the old way of doing things and

988
00:37:40,790 --> 00:37:37,980
in a sense they're being sent to these

989
00:37:42,730 --> 00:37:40,800
places as re-indoctrination camps and

990
00:37:45,770 --> 00:37:42,740
they stay in them until they either

991
00:37:47,569 --> 00:37:45,780
re-indoctrinate or leave I had another

992
00:37:49,790 --> 00:37:47,579
interesting Theory come up to me that

993
00:37:51,950 --> 00:37:49,800
perhaps these insane asylums were so

994
00:37:53,750 --> 00:37:51,960
opulent that obviously they taken over

995
00:37:55,250 --> 00:37:53,760
old palaces and turned them into insane

996
00:37:57,410 --> 00:37:55,260
asams and maybe they needed the energy

997
00:37:59,750 --> 00:37:57,420
because they they were trying to use the

998
00:38:01,730 --> 00:37:59,760
ones who survived the last reset

999
00:38:04,430 --> 00:38:01,740
whatever it was whether it's by you know

1000
00:38:05,990 --> 00:38:04,440
some sort of natural whether these are

1001
00:38:08,810 --> 00:38:06,000
natural occurrences that happen

1002
00:38:10,670 --> 00:38:08,820
cyclically or whether they're planned

1003
00:38:12,589 --> 00:38:10,680
and put in place and maybe they were

1004
00:38:14,329 --> 00:38:12,599
using them to try to raise the energy

1005
00:38:16,609 --> 00:38:14,339
frequency of those who had been through

1006
00:38:18,710 --> 00:38:16,619
the last World to get their memories out

1007
00:38:21,109 --> 00:38:18,720
of them I don't know but the combination

1008
00:38:26,390 --> 00:38:21,119
of the two just makes it very very very

1009
00:38:27,890 --> 00:38:26,400
strange and it starts to open the doors

1010
00:38:32,990 --> 00:38:27,900
to

1011
00:38:34,550 --> 00:38:33,000
mean we've got some film footage granted

1012
00:38:36,290 --> 00:38:34,560
it's doctored but we've got film footage

1013
00:38:38,089 --> 00:38:36,300
of the Kennedy assassination and still

1014
00:38:40,010 --> 00:38:38,099
we have no idea what happened there how

1015
00:38:42,109 --> 00:38:40,020
are we supposed to know what happened to

1016
00:38:44,329 --> 00:38:42,119
300 500 years ago and then we don't even

1017
00:38:46,130 --> 00:38:44,339
have photography we're so in the dark

1018
00:38:48,770 --> 00:38:46,140
with trying to understand any of this

1019
00:38:52,130 --> 00:38:48,780
stuff and it's so much is taken on

1020
00:38:54,290 --> 00:38:52,140
belief belief rules the historical realm

1021
00:38:56,210 --> 00:38:54,300
and you have to put all the belief aside

1022
00:38:57,829 --> 00:38:56,220
and start Absolutely Fresh and say you

1023
00:38:59,569 --> 00:38:57,839
know I don't know anything and it would

1024
00:39:01,430 --> 00:38:59,579
be a great way to teach history to

1025
00:39:03,170 --> 00:39:01,440
students students would actually like

1026
00:39:04,970 --> 00:39:03,180
history if the teacher walked in day one

1027
00:39:06,890 --> 00:39:04,980
and said yeah we got a book here this is

1028
00:39:08,390 --> 00:39:06,900
what the people in the universities tell

1029
00:39:10,069 --> 00:39:08,400
us but actually we don't know anything

1030
00:39:12,170 --> 00:39:10,079
at all and we're going to start our

1031
00:39:14,390 --> 00:39:12,180
examination with this book and see if we

1032
00:39:15,829 --> 00:39:14,400
can find anything that's true man that

1033
00:39:18,770 --> 00:39:15,839
would be a great way to start a history

1034
00:39:20,270 --> 00:39:18,780
class but that's not what it is yeah

1035
00:39:23,270 --> 00:39:20,280
yeah it really would it would be

1036
00:39:25,670 --> 00:39:23,280
exciting to at least make kids feel like

1037
00:39:27,470 --> 00:39:25,680
they could discover something new or

1038
00:39:29,329 --> 00:39:27,480
make some kind of impact even if it's

1039
00:39:31,030 --> 00:39:29,339
just to kind of motivate them to get

1040
00:39:35,569 --> 00:39:31,040
into the study as opposed to

1041
00:39:37,490 --> 00:39:35,579
regurgitating facts and just basically

1042
00:39:39,890 --> 00:39:37,500
telling them that there's nothing left

1043
00:39:42,650 --> 00:39:39,900
to discover it's all known now you need

1044
00:39:45,410 --> 00:39:42,660
to memorize it and spew it back out on

1045
00:39:48,410 --> 00:39:45,420
this test but you mentioned the idea

1046
00:39:51,410 --> 00:39:48,420
that another reset could occur and the

1047
00:39:55,150 --> 00:39:51,420
idea of a global reset sounds so epic

1048
00:39:58,150 --> 00:39:55,160
and it may be hard to

1049
00:40:00,770 --> 00:39:58,160
apply the modern

1050
00:40:03,170 --> 00:40:00,780
configuration of our world with like

1051
00:40:05,089 --> 00:40:03,180
times in the past but of course if it's

1052
00:40:07,190 --> 00:40:05,099
a simulation all bets are off and

1053
00:40:08,990 --> 00:40:07,200
anything's possible but if you

1054
00:40:11,870 --> 00:40:09,000
hypothetically wanted to do something

1055
00:40:15,470 --> 00:40:11,880
like that in the modern world what might

1056
00:40:18,589 --> 00:40:15,480
you do you might release a virus where

1057
00:40:20,870 --> 00:40:18,599
on the TV the only real common thing

1058
00:40:23,089 --> 00:40:20,880
that it's told that they say about it

1059
00:40:25,069 --> 00:40:23,099
that has been true from the beginning is

1060
00:40:27,589 --> 00:40:25,079
this really isn't a problem for kids

1061
00:40:29,210 --> 00:40:27,599
everybody you need to know not really a

1062
00:40:30,890 --> 00:40:29,220
problem for kids a lot of adults are

1063
00:40:33,410 --> 00:40:30,900
going to die though and then you roll

1064
00:40:35,390 --> 00:40:33,420
out a global vaccination Campaign which

1065
00:40:37,130 --> 00:40:35,400
potentially could have something in it

1066
00:40:39,310 --> 00:40:37,140
that kills everybody who takes it within

1067
00:40:42,230 --> 00:40:39,320
three to five years

1068
00:40:46,010 --> 00:40:42,240
left with a world of mostly children you

1069
00:40:48,650 --> 00:40:46,020
need one adult to run the mine for the

1070
00:40:52,010 --> 00:40:48,660
500 kids you have with the pickaxes down

1071
00:40:53,810 --> 00:40:52,020
there doing the work but it doesn't seem

1072
00:40:54,890 --> 00:40:53,820
super far-fetched that it couldn't be

1073
00:40:57,290 --> 00:40:54,900
possible

1074
00:41:00,230 --> 00:40:57,300
when we already have the term the great

1075
00:41:02,930 --> 00:41:00,240
reset being bandied about and we have

1076
00:41:05,870 --> 00:41:02,940
this Global situation that caused

1077
00:41:08,150 --> 00:41:05,880
everyone to react or a big amount of

1078
00:41:10,250 --> 00:41:08,160
people to react and the story the whole

1079
00:41:13,130 --> 00:41:10,260
time was not really a problem for kids

1080
00:41:15,349 --> 00:41:13,140
so I just find that interesting but

1081
00:41:19,250 --> 00:41:15,359
we're talking about this reset being at

1082
00:41:20,990 --> 00:41:19,260
a level higher than our Capstone cabal

1083
00:41:22,849 --> 00:41:21,000
the Puppet Masters of the power pyramid

1084
00:41:25,790 --> 00:41:22,859
the elite whatever you say but I've

1085
00:41:28,250 --> 00:41:25,800
heard you talk about NPCs and

1086
00:41:31,190 --> 00:41:28,260
in a simulation there could be a point

1087
00:41:33,530 --> 00:41:31,200
to be made that these Elite they might

1088
00:41:36,170 --> 00:41:33,540
just be aspects of the simulation who

1089
00:41:38,450 --> 00:41:36,180
really gets close to a Henry Kissinger

1090
00:41:39,950 --> 00:41:38,460
or a Klaus Schwab I've talked to so many

1091
00:41:42,290 --> 00:41:39,960
guests who say they've been in the

1092
00:41:45,109 --> 00:41:42,300
elevator with a person in this circle or

1093
00:41:47,030 --> 00:41:45,119
something and they feel soulless or they

1094
00:41:48,589 --> 00:41:47,040
feel different when you met the queen

1095
00:41:51,050 --> 00:41:48,599
you're not supposed to look into her

1096
00:41:54,349 --> 00:41:51,060
eyes but Adam Curry did and he said he

1097
00:41:56,210 --> 00:41:54,359
saw nothing so these are weird aspects

1098
00:41:58,609 --> 00:41:56,220
maybe these people aren't even human but

1099
00:42:00,950 --> 00:41:58,619
they're part of the game itself talk to

1100
00:42:03,650 --> 00:42:00,960
us a little bit about NPCs and how you

1101
00:42:07,310 --> 00:42:03,660
see the simulation being run and the

1102
00:42:08,870 --> 00:42:07,320
prospect of a no of a coming reset yeah

1103
00:42:10,310 --> 00:42:08,880
a ton of information so I'll try to go

1104
00:42:12,290 --> 00:42:10,320
through a little bit that I wrote down

1105
00:42:15,410 --> 00:42:12,300
while you were talking the first I guess

1106
00:42:17,390 --> 00:42:15,420
is to think of because I I didn't when I

1107
00:42:19,550 --> 00:42:17,400
wrote my book in 2019 I was talking

1108
00:42:21,290 --> 00:42:19,560
about resets and this was long before

1109
00:42:23,270 --> 00:42:21,300
the things that were starting to happen

1110
00:42:25,010 --> 00:42:23,280
now so it was actually a little creepy

1111
00:42:26,810 --> 00:42:25,020
when that word started to be thrown

1112
00:42:29,089 --> 00:42:26,820
about as this is what we're doing in our

1113
00:42:30,710 --> 00:42:29,099
world now they're like oh man I was

1114
00:42:32,810 --> 00:42:30,720
writing about this before this even

1115
00:42:35,510 --> 00:42:32,820
happened kind of oh boy and I kind of

1116
00:42:37,430 --> 00:42:35,520
realized we're in it now this is no joke

1117
00:42:40,490 --> 00:42:37,440
and I think that's what people need to

1118
00:42:44,150 --> 00:42:40,500
recognize when people are thinking the

1119
00:42:45,530 --> 00:42:44,160
reset is monetary or it's government or

1120
00:42:46,910 --> 00:42:45,540
it's something about the world it's

1121
00:42:49,609 --> 00:42:46,920
about energy

1122
00:42:52,550 --> 00:42:49,619
it's an energetic reset that you can

1123
00:42:54,290 --> 00:42:52,560
think of it that the power source of

1124
00:42:57,650 --> 00:42:54,300
this reality the power source of the

1125
00:42:59,870 --> 00:42:57,660
simulation is obviously now needing more

1126
00:43:01,790 --> 00:42:59,880
power I can't say the exact reason why

1127
00:43:04,670 --> 00:43:01,800
but my theory is now that when these

1128
00:43:08,450 --> 00:43:04,680
resets happen there needs to be a new

1129
00:43:11,030 --> 00:43:08,460
way of power to get into the system

1130
00:43:12,770 --> 00:43:11,040
so that makes sense to me that the reset

1131
00:43:14,930 --> 00:43:12,780
as we're starting to see at the end

1132
00:43:17,569 --> 00:43:14,940
results if we start following along

1133
00:43:20,270 --> 00:43:17,579
where this seems to want to go today is

1134
00:43:22,790 --> 00:43:20,280
to have humans connected with AI

1135
00:43:24,770 --> 00:43:22,800
connected in sort of a robotic way where

1136
00:43:27,290 --> 00:43:24,780
they're plugged directly into the AI

1137
00:43:29,510 --> 00:43:27,300
system and this would make sense that if

1138
00:43:32,569 --> 00:43:29,520
humans are an energy source if humans

1139
00:43:34,309 --> 00:43:32,579
are here being farmed for energy as a

1140
00:43:36,410 --> 00:43:34,319
number of people and writers have talked

1141
00:43:38,569 --> 00:43:36,420
about through history it would also make

1142
00:43:41,270 --> 00:43:38,579
sense you would find you would probably

1143
00:43:43,609 --> 00:43:41,280
get a better ability or a better cleaner

1144
00:43:45,470 --> 00:43:43,619
Harvest if the human was plugged into

1145
00:43:47,270 --> 00:43:45,480
the system itself there would be no loss

1146
00:43:48,710 --> 00:43:47,280
if the human is outside the system

1147
00:43:50,569 --> 00:43:48,720
there's going to be some sort of energy

1148
00:43:52,370 --> 00:43:50,579
loss as you have to take the energy from

1149
00:43:54,349 --> 00:43:52,380
the human through the space into the

1150
00:43:56,030 --> 00:43:54,359
machine whatever you know is taking it

1151
00:43:57,470 --> 00:43:56,040
so it would make sense that the thought

1152
00:43:59,450 --> 00:43:57,480
process would be well if we need more

1153
00:44:01,490 --> 00:43:59,460
energy all we have to do is plug the

1154
00:44:03,230 --> 00:44:01,500
human directly in or the being the

1155
00:44:04,910 --> 00:44:03,240
animal whatever we're plugged in now

1156
00:44:06,589 --> 00:44:04,920
directly and now there's no energy loss

1157
00:44:10,010 --> 00:44:06,599
so my first thought is if we're looking

1158
00:44:11,690 --> 00:44:10,020
at what's going on on an energy level we

1159
00:44:13,790 --> 00:44:11,700
may start to understand what's really

1160
00:44:16,250 --> 00:44:13,800
going on what the real purpose of this

1161
00:44:17,390 --> 00:44:16,260
is and of course what we need to do

1162
00:44:20,150 --> 00:44:17,400
about it

1163
00:44:21,890 --> 00:44:20,160
when you talk about the NPCs

1164
00:44:23,990 --> 00:44:21,900
this comes from a couple of personal

1165
00:44:26,450 --> 00:44:24,000
stories for me and

1166
00:44:28,609 --> 00:44:26,460
I started noticing this

1167
00:44:32,089 --> 00:44:28,619
wow like the first one I ran into is

1168
00:44:34,609 --> 00:44:32,099
like 1999 there's two stories there one

1169
00:44:36,290 --> 00:44:34,619
though was was a negative story it's a

1170
00:44:37,790 --> 00:44:36,300
positive story but in both cases I

1171
00:44:39,470 --> 00:44:37,800
didn't think I was dealing with a human

1172
00:44:40,910 --> 00:44:39,480
in any way shape or form one was a guy

1173
00:44:42,829 --> 00:44:40,920
in a bookstore I was there to meet a

1174
00:44:45,470 --> 00:44:42,839
friend of mine and this guy was just

1175
00:44:47,630 --> 00:44:45,480
staring at me and when I looked at him

1176
00:44:49,370 --> 00:44:47,640
his eyes were like dark

1177
00:44:51,410 --> 00:44:49,380
I wouldn't necessarily black but they

1178
00:44:54,290 --> 00:44:51,420
were just dark he was staring at me and

1179
00:44:56,510 --> 00:44:54,300
not blinking and I had the sense that he

1180
00:44:58,550 --> 00:44:56,520
was trying to like almost like suck the

1181
00:45:01,370 --> 00:44:58,560
soul out of me and I remember I just

1182
00:45:03,230 --> 00:45:01,380
stood there and I looked at him and I

1183
00:45:05,809 --> 00:45:03,240
was in a staring contest with him and I

1184
00:45:07,609 --> 00:45:05,819
was mentally projecting if you come a

1185
00:45:08,690 --> 00:45:07,619
step closer I'm going to put my hands

1186
00:45:10,910 --> 00:45:08,700
around your throat and I'm going to kill

1187
00:45:12,290 --> 00:45:10,920
you and we just stood there and I don't

1188
00:45:14,809 --> 00:45:12,300
know whether it's a minute or whether it

1189
00:45:16,910 --> 00:45:14,819
was 50 minutes I have no idea we just

1190
00:45:18,829 --> 00:45:16,920
stared at each other and then finally

1191
00:45:20,809 --> 00:45:18,839
after a certain amount of time this

1192
00:45:23,750 --> 00:45:20,819
thing just turned around and walked out

1193
00:45:26,030 --> 00:45:23,760
of the store my friend had seen all of

1194
00:45:27,650 --> 00:45:26,040
this occur he had seen this taking place

1195
00:45:30,230 --> 00:45:27,660
and when it was done I remember I was

1196
00:45:33,109 --> 00:45:30,240
rigid I was like a tree I was so tight

1197
00:45:34,790 --> 00:45:33,119
with you know intensity and he just put

1198
00:45:36,710 --> 00:45:34,800
his arm around me and said

1199
00:45:38,750 --> 00:45:36,720
you can never back down from them

1200
00:45:40,010 --> 00:45:38,760
otherwise they'll walk over you the rest

1201
00:45:42,230 --> 00:45:40,020
of your life

1202
00:45:43,849 --> 00:45:42,240
and so that was a powerful thing to

1203
00:45:46,670 --> 00:45:43,859
start with to get that recommendation

1204
00:45:48,470 --> 00:45:46,680
and then the second story was I was

1205
00:45:50,530 --> 00:45:48,480
taking some friends to a stone circle

1206
00:45:53,210 --> 00:45:50,540
that I like to take people to in Norway

1207
00:45:54,890 --> 00:45:53,220
and I was in one stone circle they were

1208
00:45:56,390 --> 00:45:54,900
in another Stone Circle

1209
00:45:58,130 --> 00:45:56,400
and all of a sudden this woman just

1210
00:46:00,890 --> 00:45:58,140
appeared out of nowhere like literally

1211
00:46:02,870 --> 00:46:00,900
out of nowhere and walked into the

1212
00:46:04,490 --> 00:46:02,880
circle and had this conversation with

1213
00:46:06,730 --> 00:46:04,500
them and right away I could see from

1214
00:46:11,329 --> 00:46:06,740
where I was I was a distance away that

1215
00:46:13,490 --> 00:46:11,339
she was a little transparent almost like

1216
00:46:14,750 --> 00:46:13,500
a tuner on a radio she would come in she

1217
00:46:16,130 --> 00:46:14,760
would go out she would come in she would

1218
00:46:18,650 --> 00:46:16,140
go out

1219
00:46:19,849 --> 00:46:18,660
when she walked away I walked over to my

1220
00:46:22,010 --> 00:46:19,859
friends and said

1221
00:46:23,809 --> 00:46:22,020
so did you I mean do you remember every

1222
00:46:25,910 --> 00:46:23,819
single thing she said to you why because

1223
00:46:27,290 --> 00:46:25,920
that wasn't a person you were talking to

1224
00:46:28,849 --> 00:46:27,300
what do you mean it's not a person it's

1225
00:46:30,650 --> 00:46:28,859
not a person you were talking to I asked

1226
00:46:32,390 --> 00:46:30,660
where did she come from well kind of

1227
00:46:33,890 --> 00:46:32,400
over there well what's over there well

1228
00:46:35,569 --> 00:46:33,900
it's the forest yeah and where did she

1229
00:46:37,130 --> 00:46:35,579
go well now she didn't go down the

1230
00:46:39,470 --> 00:46:37,140
pathway she kind of there she kind of

1231
00:46:40,970 --> 00:46:39,480
just I guess into the Forest right she

1232
00:46:42,349 --> 00:46:40,980
came out of the forest and she went into

1233
00:46:44,329 --> 00:46:42,359
the forest what was the first thing she

1234
00:46:46,730 --> 00:46:44,339
said to you oh she said that she's the

1235
00:46:48,650 --> 00:46:46,740
protector of this area protector of this

1236
00:46:50,569 --> 00:46:48,660
area to think some 68 year old woman is

1237
00:46:52,309 --> 00:46:50,579
coming around here with a lawnmower and

1238
00:46:54,829 --> 00:46:52,319
some Cutters and is looking after the

1239
00:46:56,750 --> 00:46:54,839
Stone Circle no so do you understand

1240
00:46:57,589 --> 00:46:56,760
that you were dealing with something not

1241
00:47:00,410 --> 00:46:57,599
human

1242
00:47:01,849 --> 00:47:00,420
and they finally began to and in this

1243
00:47:04,430 --> 00:47:01,859
case this was a very positive thing

1244
00:47:07,609 --> 00:47:04,440
probably so I think we've got so many

1245
00:47:10,910 --> 00:47:07,619
out there that have a human exterior to

1246
00:47:12,290 --> 00:47:10,920
us but one way or another are not so we

1247
00:47:13,849 --> 00:47:12,300
have to recognize that we've got uh

1248
00:47:15,589 --> 00:47:13,859
negative sides of this which you might

1249
00:47:17,750 --> 00:47:15,599
call soulless robots and we've also got

1250
00:47:20,270 --> 00:47:17,760
other things that seem to be

1251
00:47:22,609 --> 00:47:20,280
an extension of the natural world or an

1252
00:47:24,710 --> 00:47:22,619
extension of the total power of this

1253
00:47:26,270 --> 00:47:24,720
place that are also in some way offering

1254
00:47:29,329 --> 00:47:26,280
their help and offering their assistance

1255
00:47:31,490 --> 00:47:29,339
and we sort of need to know when we come

1256
00:47:32,510 --> 00:47:31,500
across them that we are and which one

1257
00:47:35,630 --> 00:47:32,520
we've got

1258
00:47:37,370 --> 00:47:35,640
huh well I certainly like those stories

1259
00:47:38,870 --> 00:47:37,380
and I know I threw a lot at you there

1260
00:47:41,030 --> 00:47:38,880
because I wanted to pack

1261
00:47:43,970 --> 00:47:41,040
a lot of those Concepts into the first

1262
00:47:46,670 --> 00:47:43,980
hour while we still could and we should

1263
00:47:49,970 --> 00:47:46,680
maybe fit this in as well because the

1264
00:47:51,530 --> 00:47:49,980
soul trap book is your latest one and

1265
00:47:53,329 --> 00:47:51,540
obviously you heard the Wayne Bush

1266
00:47:57,770 --> 00:47:53,339
interview he's quoted at the beginning

1267
00:47:59,690 --> 00:47:57,780
of your book people love that idea and

1268
00:48:02,089 --> 00:47:59,700
I've heard you say that we have two

1269
00:48:05,089 --> 00:48:02,099
options when we look at the 1800s either

1270
00:48:07,910 --> 00:48:05,099
we went through a reset somewhere and

1271
00:48:10,550 --> 00:48:07,920
things were restarted and repopulated or

1272
00:48:12,470 --> 00:48:10,560
option two is that we have a simulation

1273
00:48:15,170 --> 00:48:12,480
reality and we don't know when the

1274
00:48:18,410 --> 00:48:15,180
simulation started everything before the

1275
00:48:20,510 --> 00:48:18,420
start is just Westworld backstory for

1276
00:48:22,970 --> 00:48:20,520
the robots and I really like that but

1277
00:48:24,770 --> 00:48:22,980
talk to us about option two a bit and

1278
00:48:26,870 --> 00:48:24,780
how it might relate to the newest book

1279
00:48:30,470 --> 00:48:26,880
and at least provide some context for

1280
00:48:32,690 --> 00:48:30,480
what or why this reality even is

1281
00:48:34,730 --> 00:48:32,700
yeah that's a great comment to make you

1282
00:48:36,829 --> 00:48:34,740
know Wayne Bush I think just a great

1283
00:48:37,790 --> 00:48:36,839
researcher his site is fantastic he was

1284
00:48:39,890 --> 00:48:37,800
a great

1285
00:48:42,650 --> 00:48:39,900
inspiration actually to get my work

1286
00:48:45,230 --> 00:48:42,660
started on this book which is sort of

1287
00:48:47,930 --> 00:48:45,240
trying to ask questions a combination of

1288
00:48:50,150 --> 00:48:47,940
what is this place really why is it set

1289
00:48:52,730 --> 00:48:50,160
up who set it up who created it for what

1290
00:48:54,770 --> 00:48:52,740
purpose and we're going to die and we're

1291
00:48:57,890 --> 00:48:54,780
going to have to experience something is

1292
00:49:00,710 --> 00:48:57,900
there a way to get out of a an endless

1293
00:49:03,290 --> 00:49:00,720
reincarnation cycle and a part of that

1294
00:49:06,290 --> 00:49:03,300
story is digging into

1295
00:49:08,089 --> 00:49:06,300
okay if we're dealing with a simulation

1296
00:49:10,250 --> 00:49:08,099
which seems to be more and more correct

1297
00:49:12,770 --> 00:49:10,260
and again I hate to call it a simulation

1298
00:49:14,450 --> 00:49:12,780
because it's simplifying something much

1299
00:49:17,210 --> 00:49:14,460
more massive so again please if you're

1300
00:49:19,190 --> 00:49:17,220
listening I'm not saying it is exactly a

1301
00:49:21,890 --> 00:49:19,200
simulation the way we know them in our

1302
00:49:25,370 --> 00:49:21,900
world it just it's a metaphor to discuss

1303
00:49:27,410 --> 00:49:25,380
where we're in but any simulation has

1304
00:49:30,050 --> 00:49:27,420
two things that are part of it one is a

1305
00:49:32,329 --> 00:49:30,060
start time there is a day zero day one

1306
00:49:35,329 --> 00:49:32,339
of the simulation there's also a

1307
00:49:36,770 --> 00:49:35,339
simulation is normally not just it's

1308
00:49:39,290 --> 00:49:36,780
copied on something there's something

1309
00:49:41,329 --> 00:49:39,300
that it's copied from so we'll take the

1310
00:49:43,670 --> 00:49:41,339
first one and this leads into Westworld

1311
00:49:45,829 --> 00:49:43,680
it leads into a whole lot of questions

1312
00:49:47,870 --> 00:49:45,839
okay if we're in a simulation and the

1313
00:49:49,550 --> 00:49:47,880
simulation had a start day there's an

1314
00:49:51,410 --> 00:49:49,560
official start day of the simulation

1315
00:49:53,930 --> 00:49:51,420
well when is that

1316
00:49:55,970 --> 00:49:53,940
maybe it's five days ago maybe it's 50

1317
00:49:57,470 --> 00:49:55,980
years ago maybe it's 200 years ago who

1318
00:49:59,690 --> 00:49:57,480
knows when the start date is but that

1319
00:50:01,370 --> 00:49:59,700
would mean every single thing we think

1320
00:50:03,710 --> 00:50:01,380
of as history and let's say it's in our

1321
00:50:05,809 --> 00:50:03,720
own life never mind putting it 500 years

1322
00:50:07,970 --> 00:50:05,819
ago what if we put it the simulation

1323
00:50:10,430 --> 00:50:07,980
started 12 years ago that's a great

1324
00:50:12,470 --> 00:50:10,440
example 2010 that's when that simulation

1325
00:50:14,750 --> 00:50:12,480
started so not just everything in

1326
00:50:16,970 --> 00:50:14,760
history potentially everything we think

1327
00:50:19,190 --> 00:50:16,980
of as a memory in our life

1328
00:50:21,109 --> 00:50:19,200
our own personal life experience is the

1329
00:50:23,990 --> 00:50:21,119
same as just the backstory of a robot in

1330
00:50:25,490 --> 00:50:24,000
Westworld and so that leads also in my

1331
00:50:27,410 --> 00:50:25,500
book I talk a lot about the movie Dark

1332
00:50:29,930 --> 00:50:27,420
City which to me is one of the greatest

1333
00:50:32,089 --> 00:50:29,940
movies ever made and that's another key

1334
00:50:33,770 --> 00:50:32,099
element of dark city is that every night

1335
00:50:35,809 --> 00:50:33,780
the humans are getting brand new

1336
00:50:37,849 --> 00:50:35,819
memories brand new identities pumped

1337
00:50:39,950 --> 00:50:37,859
into them which they believe to be real

1338
00:50:42,230 --> 00:50:39,960
and whatever stories put into them they

1339
00:50:45,349 --> 00:50:42,240
believe that that's their past and we

1340
00:50:48,950 --> 00:50:45,359
actually have no proof generally other

1341
00:50:51,109 --> 00:50:48,960
than superficial ideas that anything 20

1342
00:50:52,849 --> 00:50:51,119
years ago really happened we don't know

1343
00:50:54,950 --> 00:50:52,859
whether that really happened or whether

1344
00:50:56,750 --> 00:50:54,960
literally we've been in equivalent

1345
00:50:58,670 --> 00:50:56,760
injected with memories and told to

1346
00:51:01,910 --> 00:50:58,680
believe that's us I know it's kind of

1347
00:51:03,710 --> 00:51:01,920
mind-bending to dig into that but for me

1348
00:51:06,730 --> 00:51:03,720
if you can actually figure out when the

1349
00:51:09,410 --> 00:51:06,740
simulation started you now know exactly

1350
00:51:11,089 --> 00:51:09,420
what are things that are because there's

1351
00:51:13,370 --> 00:51:11,099
no point studying before the simulation

1352
00:51:15,230 --> 00:51:13,380
began that's just backstory it's things

1353
00:51:18,049 --> 00:51:15,240
that didn't actually happen in our

1354
00:51:22,430 --> 00:51:18,059
so-called experience and we could really

1355
00:51:23,930 --> 00:51:22,440
focus our time in on what did happen and

1356
00:51:26,690 --> 00:51:23,940
I think if we're dealing with a

1357
00:51:28,670 --> 00:51:26,700
simulation I don't think it started that

1358
00:51:31,130 --> 00:51:28,680
long ago maybe five or six hundred years

1359
00:51:33,410 --> 00:51:31,140
at the most I'm maybe literally two

1360
00:51:35,270 --> 00:51:33,420
thousand years might be the most we have

1361
00:51:38,150 --> 00:51:35,280
an actual simulation so here are all

1362
00:51:39,549 --> 00:51:38,160
these pyramids are they really just

1363
00:51:42,530 --> 00:51:39,559
literally

1364
00:51:45,770 --> 00:51:42,540
inserts that when the simulation started

1365
00:51:48,530 --> 00:51:45,780
they're just there and they're literally

1366
00:51:50,630 --> 00:51:48,540
just copies of the pyramids in another

1367
00:51:53,230 --> 00:51:50,640
realm that you might say where we really

1368
00:51:55,849 --> 00:51:53,240
come from it's mind-bending to start

1369
00:51:58,670 --> 00:51:55,859
contemplating this stuff but I think we

1370
00:52:01,849 --> 00:51:58,680
have to maybe you could consider them

1371
00:52:04,849 --> 00:52:01,859
just to use the simulation analogy old

1372
00:52:07,430 --> 00:52:04,859
code like so often our phone will have

1373
00:52:09,109 --> 00:52:07,440
an update and everything will change but

1374
00:52:10,309 --> 00:52:09,119
maybe there's a little old code in there

1375
00:52:11,750 --> 00:52:10,319
somewhere when it comes to the

1376
00:52:14,270 --> 00:52:11,760
infrastructure we're looking at that's

1377
00:52:17,750 --> 00:52:14,280
why I look so beat up and so old

1378
00:52:19,250 --> 00:52:17,760
yeah or again it's just rather than an

1379
00:52:21,049 --> 00:52:19,260
almost like an upgrade instead of

1380
00:52:22,970 --> 00:52:21,059
thinking like the every time we go

1381
00:52:24,530 --> 00:52:22,980
through a new coding it gets upgraded we

1382
00:52:26,210 --> 00:52:24,540
can almost think it's getting downgraded

1383
00:52:28,790 --> 00:52:26,220
all right so literally then that would

1384
00:52:30,710 --> 00:52:28,800
change the ideas too that the further

1385
00:52:32,270 --> 00:52:30,720
you go back in the resets the further

1386
00:52:34,549 --> 00:52:32,280
you go back in the code you're actually

1387
00:52:35,990 --> 00:52:34,559
dealing with a more pure code

1388
00:52:38,089 --> 00:52:36,000
that's another

1389
00:52:39,770 --> 00:52:38,099
set of ideas and theories that have been

1390
00:52:41,809 --> 00:52:39,780
presented to me that actually we are

1391
00:52:43,970 --> 00:52:41,819
from the standpoint we're devolving as

1392
00:52:46,370 --> 00:52:43,980
we go through the years of the

1393
00:52:48,410 --> 00:52:46,380
simulation not evolving hence the If

1394
00:52:49,549 --> 00:52:48,420
we're honest and we look back further

1395
00:52:51,170 --> 00:52:49,559
and further and further in the past

1396
00:52:53,150 --> 00:52:51,180
we're seeing actually more and more

1397
00:52:56,450 --> 00:52:53,160
greatness more and more Harmony more and

1398
00:52:58,609 --> 00:52:56,460
more spectacular things because we're

1399
00:53:00,410 --> 00:52:58,619
the ones that are getting the old we're

1400
00:53:01,970 --> 00:53:00,420
kind of getting the junkie code as

1401
00:53:03,710 --> 00:53:01,980
opposed to the clean code that used to

1402
00:53:06,230 --> 00:53:03,720
be here a long time ago

1403
00:53:07,490 --> 00:53:06,240
yes Fair points and I have heard you

1404
00:53:08,809 --> 00:53:07,500
talk about how it seems like they're

1405
00:53:10,430 --> 00:53:08,819
trying to push us into the whole

1406
00:53:12,829 --> 00:53:10,440
metaverse thing which is a simulation

1407
00:53:15,530 --> 00:53:12,839
inside of the simulation and that's

1408
00:53:17,510 --> 00:53:15,540
another parallel is that a lot of people

1409
00:53:19,069 --> 00:53:17,520
feel like even with their phones and

1410
00:53:22,549 --> 00:53:19,079
with their software

1411
00:53:24,650 --> 00:53:22,559
the updates are really downgrades and

1412
00:53:27,230 --> 00:53:24,660
maybe that's just because inside the

1413
00:53:30,049 --> 00:53:27,240
simulation it's a fractal of the larger

1414
00:53:32,870 --> 00:53:30,059
system and what you say about previous

1415
00:53:36,650 --> 00:53:32,880
incarnations is true as well I like that

1416
00:53:38,690 --> 00:53:36,660
idea but your latest book is called exit

1417
00:53:40,490 --> 00:53:38,700
the cave and let's talk about Plato's

1418
00:53:42,770 --> 00:53:40,500
Cave because you write that a

1419
00:53:45,410 --> 00:53:42,780
foundational discussion point for the

1420
00:53:48,410 --> 00:53:45,420
book is the allegory of Plato's Cave

1421
00:53:50,210 --> 00:53:48,420
that is found in his book Republic it is

1422
00:53:52,210 --> 00:53:50,220
the story of a cave of prisoners being

1423
00:53:54,410 --> 00:53:52,220
tricked into living a life of Illusion

1424
00:53:56,510 --> 00:53:54,420
researchers attempt to explain the

1425
00:53:58,730 --> 00:53:56,520
analogy of Plato's Cave and its exit

1426
00:54:00,470 --> 00:53:58,740
simply they fit their analysis into

1427
00:54:02,630 --> 00:54:00,480
their beliefs of this world and few

1428
00:54:04,790 --> 00:54:02,640
question whether it is a useful analogy

1429
00:54:07,010 --> 00:54:04,800
this book is not concerned much with

1430
00:54:09,849 --> 00:54:07,020
traps in this realm this book is looking

1431
00:54:12,589 --> 00:54:09,859
for the foundation of all traps well

1432
00:54:15,890 --> 00:54:12,599
what is the foundation of all traps and

1433
00:54:19,309 --> 00:54:15,900
how does Plato's Cave relate

1434
00:54:22,549 --> 00:54:19,319
well Plato's Cave I think everybody who

1435
00:54:23,870 --> 00:54:22,559
digs into it into these stories has to

1436
00:54:26,089 --> 00:54:23,880
come across Plato's Cave it just

1437
00:54:30,049 --> 00:54:26,099
presented to you and it's presented as

1438
00:54:31,970 --> 00:54:30,059
the perfect Primal original description

1439
00:54:33,890 --> 00:54:31,980
of reality

1440
00:54:35,569 --> 00:54:33,900
and we all take it for granted that well

1441
00:54:38,210 --> 00:54:35,579
if everybody all these researchers tell

1442
00:54:40,609 --> 00:54:38,220
us Plato's Cave is great it must be

1443
00:54:42,710 --> 00:54:40,619
then I read it and of course Plato's

1444
00:54:44,630 --> 00:54:42,720
Cave is the foundation of

1445
00:54:47,030 --> 00:54:44,640
so many of these movies that we talk

1446
00:54:48,710 --> 00:54:47,040
about so Truman Show Matrix Dark City

1447
00:54:51,049 --> 00:54:48,720
movie after movie after movie they're

1448
00:54:52,609 --> 00:54:51,059
retellings of Plato's Cave so I reread

1449
00:54:54,530 --> 00:54:52,619
Plato's Cave when I started writing my

1450
00:54:56,329 --> 00:54:54,540
book okay I'm writing eggs at the cave I

1451
00:54:58,370 --> 00:54:56,339
better reread Plato's Cave one more time

1452
00:55:00,109 --> 00:54:58,380
to make sure I see what's in there and

1453
00:55:01,910 --> 00:55:00,119
it took me like five minutes to start

1454
00:55:04,250 --> 00:55:01,920
realizing

1455
00:55:07,010 --> 00:55:04,260
all the important stuff is missing

1456
00:55:10,190 --> 00:55:07,020
the key elements of what we need to know

1457
00:55:12,349 --> 00:55:10,200
about Plato's Cave is not there so the

1458
00:55:14,510 --> 00:55:12,359
story actually begins or the allegory I

1459
00:55:17,210 --> 00:55:14,520
guess is what we should call it begins

1460
00:55:19,790 --> 00:55:17,220
with Socrates talking to Plato's brother

1461
00:55:21,589 --> 00:55:19,800
glaucon and explaining to him there's a

1462
00:55:23,150 --> 00:55:21,599
cave and there's prisoners in the cave

1463
00:55:25,370 --> 00:55:23,160
and these prisoners have been brought in

1464
00:55:27,470 --> 00:55:25,380
there just after birth they're placed in

1465
00:55:28,910 --> 00:55:27,480
seats in such a way that they're chained

1466
00:55:31,849 --> 00:55:28,920
together and they can only see forward

1467
00:55:33,410 --> 00:55:31,859
under the cave walls talks about the

1468
00:55:35,870 --> 00:55:33,420
fire in the background and the people

1469
00:55:38,690 --> 00:55:35,880
who are moving objects in front of the

1470
00:55:40,790 --> 00:55:38,700
fire to cast Shadows on the walls and

1471
00:55:43,190 --> 00:55:40,800
and so okay we get the sense this is

1472
00:55:44,630 --> 00:55:43,200
telling a story of Illusion that but

1473
00:55:46,430 --> 00:55:44,640
we're missing key elements the key

1474
00:55:47,569 --> 00:55:46,440
elements right off the bat being what

1475
00:55:54,109 --> 00:55:47,579
prisoners

1476
00:55:55,790 --> 00:55:54,119
war if so what war why are they brought

1477
00:55:57,349 --> 00:55:55,800
to this cave why wouldn't they go to a

1478
00:55:59,390 --> 00:55:57,359
prisoner of war camp

1479
00:56:01,870 --> 00:55:59,400
what is the cave is the cave something

1480
00:56:05,930 --> 00:56:01,880
man-made is something that's existed

1481
00:56:08,089 --> 00:56:05,940
previously why are they why are the

1482
00:56:11,030 --> 00:56:08,099
beings who are going through all this

1483
00:56:12,650 --> 00:56:11,040
work to fool these prisoners

1484
00:56:14,750 --> 00:56:12,660
why are they doing that why are they

1485
00:56:17,329 --> 00:56:14,760
going through all that trouble so within

1486
00:56:18,230 --> 00:56:17,339
the first five minutes of reading the

1487
00:56:20,569 --> 00:56:18,240
story

1488
00:56:23,450 --> 00:56:20,579
you wind up with like 10 absolutely

1489
00:56:26,450 --> 00:56:23,460
important questions and we know that the

1490
00:56:29,210 --> 00:56:26,460
prisoners are us so the prisoners in the

1491
00:56:32,150 --> 00:56:29,220
story are told they are us allegorically

1492
00:56:33,470 --> 00:56:32,160
so right off the bat we're like why

1493
00:56:35,990 --> 00:56:33,480
don't you give us all this extra

1494
00:56:38,210 --> 00:56:36,000
information because that would explain a

1495
00:56:41,690 --> 00:56:38,220
ton of what we're dealing with none of

1496
00:56:43,069 --> 00:56:41,700
it is there and that got me starting to

1497
00:56:45,170 --> 00:56:43,079
wonder

1498
00:56:46,790 --> 00:56:45,180
well what is Plato's Cave really doing

1499
00:56:48,589 --> 00:56:46,800
for is it helping us or is it actually

1500
00:56:51,530 --> 00:56:48,599
distracting us

1501
00:56:55,250 --> 00:56:51,540
hmm very interesting I've heard you talk

1502
00:56:58,130 --> 00:56:55,260
about the fact that well why would you

1503
00:57:00,650 --> 00:56:58,140
go to all this effort to distract and

1504
00:57:02,990 --> 00:57:00,660
Dazzle people who are already prisoners

1505
00:57:05,809 --> 00:57:03,000
who are chained up and that's a very

1506
00:57:08,809 --> 00:57:05,819
great point and it makes me ask you well

1507
00:57:11,750 --> 00:57:08,819
to scale that up to our simulation or

1508
00:57:14,030 --> 00:57:11,760
our false reality why not just let us

1509
00:57:16,430 --> 00:57:14,040
know we're trapped too because if this

1510
00:57:18,950 --> 00:57:16,440
is a loose generation

1511
00:57:21,170 --> 00:57:18,960
Farm of some kind that would generate

1512
00:57:23,450 --> 00:57:21,180
plenty of negative emotion to feed on to

1513
00:57:25,670 --> 00:57:23,460
just tell everyone they're trapped

1514
00:57:27,410 --> 00:57:25,680
again I guess the best slave is always

1515
00:57:30,950 --> 00:57:27,420
one that falsely thinks that they're

1516
00:57:32,809 --> 00:57:30,960
free right touche so it must have

1517
00:57:35,809 --> 00:57:32,819
something to do with this idea because

1518
00:57:38,690 --> 00:57:35,819
Plato tends to say that actually the

1519
00:57:40,670 --> 00:57:38,700
prisoners chains are not locked that

1520
00:57:43,190 --> 00:57:40,680
they can stand up they can move around

1521
00:57:44,950 --> 00:57:43,200
the cave whenever they want to so it

1522
00:57:48,710 --> 00:57:44,960
indicates that there's something about

1523
00:57:50,450 --> 00:57:48,720
the prisoner that us ourselves that are

1524
00:57:52,370 --> 00:57:50,460
part of the locking mechanism of the

1525
00:57:54,970 --> 00:57:52,380
Trap so it's not just that we're being

1526
00:57:57,530 --> 00:57:54,980
deceived we're also deceiving ourself

1527
00:57:58,849 --> 00:57:57,540
another key element of the story that

1528
00:58:01,730 --> 00:57:58,859
most people the allegory that people

1529
00:58:04,010 --> 00:58:01,740
forget or Overlook is that

1530
00:58:05,450 --> 00:58:04,020
one prisoner eventually stands up he

1531
00:58:07,790 --> 00:58:05,460
goes around the cave he sees the

1532
00:58:09,290 --> 00:58:07,800
experience going on and they think the

1533
00:58:10,609 --> 00:58:09,300
average person if you ask them to tell

1534
00:58:12,230 --> 00:58:10,619
them the story of Plato's Cave and then

1535
00:58:14,870 --> 00:58:12,240
say Oh and then the prisoner goes

1536
00:58:17,630 --> 00:58:14,880
outside and actually no the prisoner is

1537
00:58:19,190 --> 00:58:17,640
dragged outside Socrates said what would

1538
00:58:22,010 --> 00:58:19,200
happen if they dragged the prisoner

1539
00:58:24,049 --> 00:58:22,020
outside the cave so even in the story

1540
00:58:25,370 --> 00:58:24,059
one of the prisoners

1541
00:58:27,170 --> 00:58:25,380
they don't even have the story where the

1542
00:58:30,230 --> 00:58:27,180
prisoner leaves on their own they have

1543
00:58:33,290 --> 00:58:30,240
to actually be dragged outside to see a

1544
00:58:35,510 --> 00:58:33,300
greater reality and that's also

1545
00:58:37,309 --> 00:58:35,520
interesting of like well why not right

1546
00:58:39,829 --> 00:58:37,319
into the allegory of a prisoner who

1547
00:58:41,870 --> 00:58:39,839
actually left and this became really

1548
00:58:43,130 --> 00:58:41,880
incredibly important for me as I was

1549
00:58:46,430 --> 00:58:43,140
going through the research and writing

1550
00:58:48,789 --> 00:58:46,440
the book is that I looked through other

1551
00:58:53,569 --> 00:58:48,799
books other similar stories other movies

1552
00:58:55,670 --> 00:58:53,579
never ever do we see a story where the

1553
00:58:58,069 --> 00:58:55,680
character actually leaves Plato's Cave

1554
00:58:59,990 --> 00:58:58,079
they wind up knowing the cave better

1555
00:59:01,849 --> 00:59:00,000
they wind up maybe getting more powers

1556
00:59:03,589 --> 00:59:01,859
where they can influence the cave or

1557
00:59:05,450 --> 00:59:03,599
they can alter the cave where they can

1558
00:59:07,490 --> 00:59:05,460
make the cave a bit better where they

1559
00:59:09,370 --> 00:59:07,500
can help people within the cave but

1560
00:59:12,109 --> 00:59:09,380
there's never an example of actually

1561
00:59:13,490 --> 00:59:12,119
exiting leaving the simulation which

1562
00:59:15,349 --> 00:59:13,500
would actually be

1563
00:59:17,390 --> 00:59:15,359
being completely gone from the

1564
00:59:19,670 --> 00:59:17,400
simulation so that's the part that

1565
00:59:21,890 --> 00:59:19,680
really drags into me it's that what's

1566
00:59:23,750 --> 00:59:21,900
most important it seems like we are

1567
00:59:26,089 --> 00:59:23,760
dealing with deception upon deception

1568
00:59:28,130 --> 00:59:26,099
upon deception layer upon layer upon

1569
00:59:30,530 --> 00:59:28,140
layer of false that has been thrown at

1570
00:59:32,270 --> 00:59:30,540
us since long before we were born you

1571
00:59:34,789 --> 00:59:32,280
know even in the pre-birth state we are

1572
00:59:36,710 --> 00:59:34,799
being deceived constantly but the one

1573
00:59:38,210 --> 00:59:36,720
thing that's being hid from us or

1574
00:59:39,890 --> 00:59:38,220
attempted to be hidden the only thing

1575
00:59:42,349 --> 00:59:39,900
they're trying to really make sure that

1576
00:59:44,329 --> 00:59:42,359
we have no access to is how do we just

1577
00:59:47,390 --> 00:59:44,339
get the hell out how do we just say I've

1578
00:59:50,270 --> 00:59:47,400
had enough of this crap and I'm done and

1579
00:59:53,630 --> 00:59:50,280
they're trying to make sure that is like

1580
00:59:56,329 --> 00:59:53,640
the hardest thing to find and that's

1581
00:59:59,150 --> 00:59:56,339
what I'm hoping this book is starting to

1582
01:00:01,970 --> 00:59:59,160
get towards and eventually I'm assuming

1583
01:00:04,130 --> 01:00:01,980
the world doesn't go into total chaos

1584
01:00:07,010 --> 01:00:04,140
that I will have a second book on this

1585
01:00:09,410 --> 01:00:07,020
subject next May or so I plan on

1586
01:00:11,329 --> 01:00:09,420
continuing this research for another six

1587
01:00:13,549 --> 01:00:11,339
to eight months taking it even to

1588
01:00:15,589 --> 01:00:13,559
another level from where I'm at now and

1589
01:00:17,030 --> 01:00:15,599
I'm hopeful that more will act because

1590
01:00:19,970 --> 01:00:17,040
that to me that's the only thing that

1591
01:00:21,230 --> 01:00:19,980
matters this is me personally I'm tired

1592
01:00:24,049 --> 01:00:21,240
of this place

1593
01:00:26,870 --> 01:00:24,059
I'm tired of that this is set up as a

1594
01:00:29,450 --> 01:00:26,880
suffering pit of Hell and I know I know

1595
01:00:30,950 --> 01:00:29,460
so many people will have their own spin

1596
01:00:32,569 --> 01:00:30,960
it's one thing I've really started to

1597
01:00:34,549 --> 01:00:32,579
find from the interviews now that I've

1598
01:00:37,130 --> 01:00:34,559
done in the last month or so about the

1599
01:00:38,210 --> 01:00:37,140
book is that as soon as I say suffering

1600
01:00:40,250 --> 01:00:38,220
pit of Hell

1601
01:00:42,829 --> 01:00:40,260
I'm always responded with a belief

1602
01:00:44,750 --> 01:00:42,839
structure of why it's okay for this to

1603
01:00:47,329 --> 01:00:44,760
be suffering why it's okay that a loving

1604
01:00:50,329 --> 01:00:47,339
God could have created such suffering in

1605
01:00:51,710 --> 01:00:50,339
this realm and thankfully you're not

1606
01:00:53,510 --> 01:00:51,720
thankfully I've finally come to the

1607
01:00:55,069 --> 01:00:53,520
place where I've broken that attempt to

1608
01:00:56,450 --> 01:00:55,079
try to answer it and I just realize it's

1609
01:00:59,510 --> 01:00:56,460
set up this way

1610
01:01:00,950 --> 01:00:59,520
that's just what this is and I've come

1611
01:01:03,230 --> 01:01:00,960
to the place where

1612
01:01:04,490 --> 01:01:03,240
I'm ready to go home and that's the best

1613
01:01:06,950 --> 01:01:04,500
way to describe it I'm ready to go home

1614
01:01:08,750 --> 01:01:06,960
I'm ready to go in sort of Gnostic

1615
01:01:11,569 --> 01:01:08,760
terminology to return to the true father

1616
01:01:14,089 --> 01:01:11,579
to return where where I actually come

1617
01:01:15,530 --> 01:01:14,099
from and this book is kind of my way of

1618
01:01:17,990 --> 01:01:15,540
helping me

1619
01:01:20,030 --> 01:01:18,000
put the pieces together to learn what

1620
01:01:21,710 --> 01:01:20,040
needs to be done to do that and if

1621
01:01:23,870 --> 01:01:21,720
others can get some pieces of

1622
01:01:25,490 --> 01:01:23,880
information that helps them and if some

1623
01:01:26,870 --> 01:01:25,500
feel like they want to join along the

1624
01:01:28,970 --> 01:01:26,880
way and try to do the same thing

1625
01:01:31,730 --> 01:01:28,980
fantastic

1626
01:01:33,530 --> 01:01:31,740
but I know it's hard for a lot of people

1627
01:01:35,150 --> 01:01:33,540
to have to discuss the subjects that are

1628
01:01:36,589 --> 01:01:35,160
in my book now because it seems so

1629
01:01:39,049 --> 01:01:36,599
negative on the surface it seems like

1630
01:01:41,270 --> 01:01:39,059
I'm just presenting negative information

1631
01:01:44,030 --> 01:01:41,280
but if you're going to get to something

1632
01:01:46,789 --> 01:01:44,040
true then you have to see very clearly

1633
01:01:48,890 --> 01:01:46,799
what's here what the experience of our

1634
01:01:51,530 --> 01:01:48,900
life really is what the experience of

1635
01:01:53,450 --> 01:01:51,540
what we are really is the end result of

1636
01:01:55,490 --> 01:01:53,460
it is extremely positive because truth

1637
01:01:58,789 --> 01:01:55,500
is always positive truth is always the

1638
01:02:00,589 --> 01:01:58,799
doorway to totality but if you're just

1639
01:02:02,630 --> 01:02:00,599
going to trick yourself and I've tricked

1640
01:02:04,370 --> 01:02:02,640
myself for 20 years and there's several

1641
01:02:06,410 --> 01:02:04,380
areas I'm still tricking myself I know

1642
01:02:08,930 --> 01:02:06,420
that I've got a long way to go to keep

1643
01:02:10,730 --> 01:02:08,940
getting the answers I know that I need

1644
01:02:12,470 --> 01:02:10,740
or maybe a short way I don't know but I

1645
01:02:15,170 --> 01:02:12,480
know there's more to go

1646
01:02:17,030 --> 01:02:15,180
but it's important to recognize that you

1647
01:02:18,770 --> 01:02:17,040
have to be okay to deal with potentially

1648
01:02:20,450 --> 01:02:18,780
negative answers

1649
01:02:23,329 --> 01:02:20,460
that are honest coming back to you

1650
01:02:25,430 --> 01:02:23,339
because the end result will make it

1651
01:02:27,829 --> 01:02:25,440
worthwhile to have seen honestly and

1652
01:02:30,109 --> 01:02:27,839
seen clearly the truth is always

1653
01:02:31,430 --> 01:02:30,119
positive but it can be a difficult road

1654
01:02:32,750 --> 01:02:31,440
to get there

1655
01:02:35,089 --> 01:02:32,760
mm-hmm

1656
01:02:37,490 --> 01:02:35,099
wow well I certainly think describing

1657
01:02:40,190 --> 01:02:37,500
reality as a pit of Hell is strong

1658
01:02:42,710 --> 01:02:40,200
language it doesn't bother me but I've

1659
01:02:45,470 --> 01:02:42,720
enjoyed my time here and really haven't

1660
01:02:48,829 --> 01:02:45,480
had much tragedy but I'm also in the

1661
01:02:50,930 --> 01:02:48,839
middle of a story and as you go through

1662
01:02:53,870 --> 01:02:50,940
you know a lot of my friends in Inner

1663
01:02:56,630 --> 01:02:53,880
Circle are getting into our late 30s and

1664
01:03:00,530 --> 01:02:56,640
people are losing their parents and

1665
01:03:04,370 --> 01:03:00,540
that's obviously tragic and it's kind of

1666
01:03:07,270 --> 01:03:04,380
like we all reach that phase of the

1667
01:03:09,470 --> 01:03:07,280
story whether it happens early or late

1668
01:03:11,150 --> 01:03:09,480
generally you're going to lose your

1669
01:03:13,069 --> 01:03:11,160
parents as you get older you're going to

1670
01:03:15,250 --> 01:03:13,079
lose your friends lose your spouse

1671
01:03:18,890 --> 01:03:15,260
hopefully you don't lose your children

1672
01:03:20,690 --> 01:03:18,900
but you really can't say if it was an

1673
01:03:23,089 --> 01:03:20,700
ultimate tragedy until you're in the

1674
01:03:26,270 --> 01:03:23,099
third act whenever that third Act is for

1675
01:03:28,730 --> 01:03:26,280
you so I think it's totally possible

1676
01:03:32,270 --> 01:03:28,740
it's certainly set up that nobody gets

1677
01:03:34,490 --> 01:03:32,280
out without experiencing some loss and

1678
01:03:37,430 --> 01:03:34,500
what is that about you know is that's

1679
01:03:40,010 --> 01:03:37,440
why the Buddhist philosophy is that life

1680
01:03:42,470 --> 01:03:40,020
is ultimately suffering but from my out

1681
01:03:46,309 --> 01:03:42,480
of body experiences psychedelically

1682
01:03:49,549 --> 01:03:46,319
charged yes the other side is like this

1683
01:03:51,170 --> 01:03:49,559
blanket of love and you definitely feel

1684
01:03:52,910 --> 01:03:51,180
like in that moment you know what I

1685
01:03:54,650 --> 01:03:52,920
don't want to go back and you don't

1686
01:03:56,150 --> 01:03:54,660
really think too deeply about well what

1687
01:03:58,010 --> 01:03:56,160
about the the people you're leaving

1688
01:03:59,930 --> 01:03:58,020
behind you're just like this is so

1689
01:04:02,329 --> 01:03:59,940
amazing I don't want to go back they'll

1690
01:04:04,069 --> 01:04:02,339
come here eventually so I'm not that

1691
01:04:05,450 --> 01:04:04,079
worried about it and these are all the

1692
01:04:08,690 --> 01:04:05,460
thoughts that I had just in those

1693
01:04:11,329 --> 01:04:08,700
moments but you know the entities that I

1694
01:04:13,849 --> 01:04:11,339
feel like I had communicated with had

1695
01:04:17,630 --> 01:04:13,859
said to me that the value of this

1696
01:04:20,569 --> 01:04:17,640
reality of this physical layer is that

1697
01:04:23,750 --> 01:04:20,579
you get to experience taste and physical

1698
01:04:27,230 --> 01:04:23,760
pleasure and warm cozy blankets and see

1699
01:04:29,930 --> 01:04:27,240
sunsets that the structure is valuable

1700
01:04:32,089 --> 01:04:29,940
to people in the spirit world the reason

1701
01:04:34,490 --> 01:04:32,099
Spirits want to come here is to have

1702
01:04:36,530 --> 01:04:34,500
experience and it's not all negative

1703
01:04:38,750 --> 01:04:36,540
it's partly even the story why the

1704
01:04:41,329 --> 01:04:38,760
angels are jealous of man is we're here

1705
01:04:44,510 --> 01:04:41,339
we can create things we have the five

1706
01:04:46,670 --> 01:04:44,520
senses and those senses can provide

1707
01:04:49,309 --> 01:04:46,680
intense pleasures

1708
01:04:51,470 --> 01:04:49,319
not always but it is an aspect of

1709
01:04:53,329 --> 01:04:51,480
reality and I feel like when I've had

1710
01:04:55,970 --> 01:04:53,339
conscious communication with something

1711
01:04:59,450 --> 01:04:55,980
that is an intelligence outside of a

1712
01:05:01,130 --> 01:04:59,460
body it has basically said to me I'm

1713
01:05:03,230 --> 01:05:01,140
kind of jealous of your experience man

1714
01:05:04,789 --> 01:05:03,240
it's like a Grass Is Always Greener kind

1715
01:05:06,170 --> 01:05:04,799
of thing and I'm sitting there like well

1716
01:05:08,030 --> 01:05:06,180
I don't even want to go back to that I'd

1717
01:05:10,190 --> 01:05:08,040
stay here if I could and then the drugs

1718
01:05:12,710 --> 01:05:10,200
wear off but this is like kind of the

1719
01:05:15,410 --> 01:05:12,720
thing is it's just how you look at it I

1720
01:05:17,569 --> 01:05:15,420
suppose but a simulation is a simulation

1721
01:05:19,370 --> 01:05:17,579
either way it's false by definition it's

1722
01:05:21,530 --> 01:05:19,380
not the true reality

1723
01:05:23,809 --> 01:05:21,540
it's false by definition and without

1724
01:05:26,510 --> 01:05:23,819
going into too much detail on all this I

1725
01:05:27,530 --> 01:05:26,520
think all of that's a trick I'm open to

1726
01:05:32,510 --> 01:05:27,540
it

1727
01:05:35,210 --> 01:05:32,520
particularly when you go through the

1728
01:05:37,250 --> 01:05:35,220
standard near death experience I think

1729
01:05:38,450 --> 01:05:37,260
what the average person you know because

1730
01:05:41,089 --> 01:05:38,460
it's a near death they don't actually

1731
01:05:43,309 --> 01:05:41,099
die I think it's a propaganda campaign

1732
01:05:47,089 --> 01:05:43,319
and it's designed to take a very

1733
01:05:49,490 --> 01:05:47,099
confused soul and in a sense give them a

1734
01:05:52,130 --> 01:05:49,500
drug of love a bombing of love where

1735
01:05:54,530 --> 01:05:52,140
they lose their ability to have

1736
01:05:56,450 --> 01:05:54,540
real logic ability they work out of

1737
01:05:59,030 --> 01:05:56,460
total feeling so they're very easy to

1738
01:06:01,490 --> 01:05:59,040
manipulate and I talk a lot about that

1739
01:06:04,849 --> 01:06:01,500
in my book how I see the experience now

1740
01:06:05,809 --> 01:06:04,859
as likely a giant set of manipulation

1741
01:06:08,210 --> 01:06:05,819
and

1742
01:06:10,370 --> 01:06:08,220
it's hard to talk about because I know

1743
01:06:11,690 --> 01:06:10,380
how people have built a certain

1744
01:06:15,289 --> 01:06:11,700
structure

1745
01:06:17,030 --> 01:06:15,299
that the world has to be good the loving

1746
01:06:19,010 --> 01:06:17,040
God is the one who made this place and

1747
01:06:20,750 --> 01:06:19,020
he cares about me and he cares about us

1748
01:06:22,549 --> 01:06:20,760
and he's given this a place for

1749
01:06:24,770 --> 01:06:22,559
wonderful experiences and yeah I've had

1750
01:06:27,049 --> 01:06:24,780
wonderful experiences too but you know

1751
01:06:29,750 --> 01:06:27,059
right now today there are probably going

1752
01:06:31,609 --> 01:06:29,760
to be what 50 million girls young girls

1753
01:06:33,289 --> 01:06:31,619
are going to get raped tonight

1754
01:06:35,630 --> 01:06:33,299
by their parents

1755
01:06:38,210 --> 01:06:35,640
how many are going to be tortured in

1756
01:06:40,609 --> 01:06:38,220
various systems all over the world it's

1757
01:06:42,230 --> 01:06:40,619
easy when you're living a life when you

1758
01:06:43,970 --> 01:06:42,240
don't have to worry about feeding

1759
01:06:45,470 --> 01:06:43,980
yourself when you know you've got some

1760
01:06:46,849 --> 01:06:45,480
food in the fridge when no one's going

1761
01:06:48,890 --> 01:06:46,859
to be banging down your door and

1762
01:06:51,170 --> 01:06:48,900
potentially dragging you off to a

1763
01:06:53,089 --> 01:06:51,180
concentration camp or whatever it

1764
01:06:55,849 --> 01:06:53,099
becomes very easy to see the world as

1765
01:06:58,730 --> 01:06:55,859
it's okay you start spending time in

1766
01:07:00,710 --> 01:06:58,740
Africa or the Middle East or India or

1767
01:07:02,569 --> 01:07:00,720
just about anywhere in the world and see

1768
01:07:04,130 --> 01:07:02,579
the Cesspool of difficulty it doesn't

1769
01:07:05,870 --> 01:07:04,140
mean there isn't Beauty in the world it

1770
01:07:08,029 --> 01:07:05,880
doesn't mean there isn't wonderful

1771
01:07:10,430 --> 01:07:08,039
experiences and I'm thrilled when they

1772
01:07:13,250 --> 01:07:10,440
come by I'm thrilled when an experience

1773
01:07:15,950 --> 01:07:13,260
of Love happens or connection happens or

1774
01:07:18,349 --> 01:07:15,960
a beautiful place in nature but I know

1775
01:07:20,270 --> 01:07:18,359
it's just like a rest Plateau I know

1776
01:07:24,289 --> 01:07:20,280
that's not really what this place is set

1777
01:07:26,089 --> 01:07:24,299
up to do and if I just look closely I

1778
01:07:27,650 --> 01:07:26,099
know somebody else is going through the

1779
01:07:30,230 --> 01:07:27,660
pits of hell even though I'm going

1780
01:07:32,630 --> 01:07:30,240
through a really nice experience so

1781
01:07:34,190 --> 01:07:32,640
that's partially why I'm saying it's a

1782
01:07:36,529 --> 01:07:34,200
suffering pit of Hell that doesn't mean

1783
01:07:38,990 --> 01:07:36,539
it it is all the time for everyone else

1784
01:07:41,029 --> 01:07:39,000
and again because we don't know our past

1785
01:07:43,670 --> 01:07:41,039
lies because we get these things memory

1786
01:07:46,549 --> 01:07:43,680
wiped before we come in just like a

1787
01:07:48,410 --> 01:07:46,559
robot in Westworld maybe the last one

1788
01:07:50,210 --> 01:07:48,420
you know the last one was horrible now

1789
01:07:51,950 --> 01:07:50,220
this one well it's not so bad you know I

1790
01:07:53,809 --> 01:07:51,960
think yeah this is okay but we can't see

1791
01:07:55,849 --> 01:07:53,819
all the lives we've actually had and all

1792
01:07:57,890 --> 01:07:55,859
the potential horror and suffering we

1793
01:07:59,870 --> 01:07:57,900
had in the other one so it's another

1794
01:08:01,789 --> 01:07:59,880
problem I have with this whole setup

1795
01:08:03,770 --> 01:08:01,799
like you say at the whole simulation and

1796
01:08:05,210 --> 01:08:03,780
everything that's involved with it if

1797
01:08:07,849 --> 01:08:05,220
they're not going to let us at least

1798
01:08:10,069 --> 01:08:07,859
have access in memory to all of our

1799
01:08:12,349 --> 01:08:10,079
Lives all of our experiences to really

1800
01:08:13,910 --> 01:08:12,359
be able to make clear understandings of

1801
01:08:17,749 --> 01:08:13,920
where we are and where we're not to just

1802
01:08:19,610 --> 01:08:17,759
send us out in this reality blind and

1803
01:08:21,709 --> 01:08:19,620
really not give us any knowledge or any

1804
01:08:23,570 --> 01:08:21,719
understanding indicates to me it's a

1805
01:08:26,749 --> 01:08:23,580
system designed to trick me and deceive

1806
01:08:29,150 --> 01:08:26,759
me and lie to me if the system was

1807
01:08:32,450 --> 01:08:29,160
designed to help me it would for sure

1808
01:08:35,269 --> 01:08:32,460
give me as much totality of experience

1809
01:08:37,370 --> 01:08:35,279
that I've had so that I would know where

1810
01:08:40,130 --> 01:08:37,380
to go next or not and I know that's hard

1811
01:08:42,590 --> 01:08:40,140
for some people to hear but I tried my

1812
01:08:44,990 --> 01:08:42,600
best to find a positive outcome for 25

1813
01:08:47,570 --> 01:08:45,000
years and I finally just I guess I

1814
01:08:49,669 --> 01:08:47,580
finally become a cathar I guess the best

1815
01:08:52,610 --> 01:08:49,679
way to describe it I guess I've become a

1816
01:08:55,490 --> 01:08:52,620
cathar and yeah that's why they're

1817
01:08:57,289 --> 01:08:55,500
chapter 14 of my book is all about their

1818
01:09:00,229 --> 01:08:57,299
story and what they believed and how

1819
01:09:02,209 --> 01:09:00,239
they tried to live their existence to as

1820
01:09:05,570 --> 01:09:02,219
they say end The Reincarnation trap of

1821
01:09:08,150 --> 01:09:05,580
Rex Monday so yeah I love it hell of a

1822
01:09:10,430 --> 01:09:08,160
Segway and that is exactly what I was

1823
01:09:12,410 --> 01:09:10,440
going to ask you about because we have

1824
01:09:14,090 --> 01:09:12,420
talked on this show plenty about the

1825
01:09:16,189 --> 01:09:14,100
gnostics and how they saw this as a

1826
01:09:19,010 --> 01:09:16,199
false reality but you write about the

1827
01:09:20,930 --> 01:09:19,020
cathars who are sometimes considered a

1828
01:09:23,090 --> 01:09:20,940
gnostic sect Under the Umbrella of

1829
01:09:25,189 --> 01:09:23,100
gnostics but they are specific people

1830
01:09:27,709 --> 01:09:25,199
and you write in the book as for the

1831
01:09:29,990 --> 01:09:27,719
cathars why is the study of a group of

1832
01:09:32,809 --> 01:09:30,000
people genocided in the 13th century

1833
01:09:34,610 --> 01:09:32,819
important the cathars had as their main

1834
01:09:37,490 --> 01:09:34,620
belief that this was a World created by

1835
01:09:39,769 --> 01:09:37,500
an evil God Rex Mundy who kept them in a

1836
01:09:42,470 --> 01:09:39,779
reincarnation cycle and their only focus

1837
01:09:44,809 --> 01:09:42,480
in this life was to escape it the

1838
01:09:47,150 --> 01:09:44,819
cathars were not concerned with making

1839
01:09:49,130 --> 01:09:47,160
this place better finding new forms of

1840
01:09:52,309 --> 01:09:49,140
government or Commerce or anything else

1841
01:09:54,590 --> 01:09:52,319
their focus was to escape the evil Realm

1842
01:09:57,530 --> 01:09:54,600
of the Rex Mundy forever and return home

1843
01:09:59,390 --> 01:09:57,540
to the father well how did they come to

1844
01:10:02,330 --> 01:09:59,400
this conclusion and if they were

1845
01:10:05,150 --> 01:10:02,340
dedicated to escaping how were they

1846
01:10:06,770 --> 01:10:05,160
attempting to do that in their day

1847
01:10:08,270 --> 01:10:06,780
well I think what I should do because I

1848
01:10:10,189 --> 01:10:08,280
know we're coming to the end of the

1849
01:10:11,330 --> 01:10:10,199
first hour a portion of this and I'd

1850
01:10:13,070 --> 01:10:11,340
like to leave

1851
01:10:15,410 --> 01:10:13,080
because you know I just had a pretty

1852
01:10:16,790 --> 01:10:15,420
harsh negative outcome I'd like to leave

1853
01:10:18,709 --> 01:10:16,800
something positive if that's okay with

1854
01:10:21,350 --> 01:10:18,719
you well that's fine I plan to actually

1855
01:10:23,030 --> 01:10:21,360
end this a little bit earlier ago like

1856
01:10:24,290 --> 01:10:23,040
in my mind as I'm thinking about how it

1857
01:10:26,030 --> 01:10:24,300
will go through because I'm not really

1858
01:10:29,030 --> 01:10:26,040
one of those people that does here's a

1859
01:10:31,189 --> 01:10:29,040
decisive split but uh either way we'll

1860
01:10:32,990 --> 01:10:31,199
have to talk a little bit longer overall

1861
01:10:34,910 --> 01:10:33,000
if you're cool with that but yeah let's

1862
01:10:36,410 --> 01:10:34,920
let this be the end of the first hour I

1863
01:10:38,030 --> 01:10:36,420
have no problem with that it's a fluid

1864
01:10:39,890 --> 01:10:38,040
thing but we will have to talk a little

1865
01:10:41,689 --> 01:10:39,900
bit longer than expected okay I'm happy

1866
01:10:43,370 --> 01:10:41,699
to talk about the cathars next but I

1867
01:10:45,830 --> 01:10:43,380
think it's good to share this stories of

1868
01:10:48,290 --> 01:10:45,840
Prayer because it's so valuable for

1869
01:10:51,830 --> 01:10:48,300
people to hear these stories okay if

1870
01:10:53,810 --> 01:10:51,840
that's okay it is hit me with it I

1871
01:10:55,370 --> 01:10:53,820
figured this is important time to share

1872
01:10:56,990 --> 01:10:55,380
the element of prayer and it's something

1873
01:10:58,850 --> 01:10:57,000
I had been studying for quite a long

1874
01:11:01,130 --> 01:10:58,860
time ever since I started working with

1875
01:11:03,709 --> 01:11:01,140
the medicine people who the number one

1876
01:11:05,450 --> 01:11:03,719
part of all of their ceremony is prayer

1877
01:11:07,610 --> 01:11:05,460
and trying to understand what they were

1878
01:11:09,649 --> 01:11:07,620
doing and I've written several times as

1879
01:11:11,450 --> 01:11:09,659
I've tried to understand that the main

1880
01:11:13,790 --> 01:11:11,460
element of their prayer was saying thank

1881
01:11:16,729 --> 01:11:13,800
you not actually asking for something

1882
01:11:19,189 --> 01:11:16,739
and okay I started to understand it a

1883
01:11:21,050 --> 01:11:19,199
bit and then as I began working in the

1884
01:11:23,630 --> 01:11:21,060
material that became this book I started

1885
01:11:26,090 --> 01:11:23,640
seeing that the way the normal person

1886
01:11:28,310 --> 01:11:26,100
has learned how to pray is probably

1887
01:11:31,189 --> 01:11:28,320
turning us into prey

1888
01:11:34,130 --> 01:11:31,199
by going outside of ourselves by praying

1889
01:11:36,910 --> 01:11:34,140
to anything outside of ourselves we are

1890
01:11:39,050 --> 01:11:36,920
setting up a possibility of energetic

1891
01:11:40,970 --> 01:11:39,060
manipulation we are turning ourselves

1892
01:11:43,130 --> 01:11:40,980
into praying so why not learn how to

1893
01:11:45,050 --> 01:11:43,140
pray to ourself

1894
01:11:47,510 --> 01:11:45,060
and as I spoke to a medicine man I still

1895
01:11:49,729 --> 01:11:47,520
have connection to a little while ago I

1896
01:11:50,810 --> 01:11:49,739
told him this idea and he shared a story

1897
01:11:53,930 --> 01:11:50,820
with me and I want to share that with

1898
01:11:56,630 --> 01:11:53,940
everybody that story is

1899
01:11:59,570 --> 01:11:56,640
about 20 years ago New Mexico or Arizona

1900
01:12:01,669 --> 01:11:59,580
was going through a terrible drought and

1901
01:12:02,530 --> 01:12:01,679
they called in a local Medicine Man of

1902
01:12:05,330 --> 01:12:02,540
the area

1903
01:12:07,130 --> 01:12:05,340
and they tried they called for rain and

1904
01:12:08,330 --> 01:12:07,140
it never rained so they brought in a

1905
01:12:10,250 --> 01:12:08,340
different medicine man from the north

1906
01:12:12,110 --> 01:12:10,260
and he came down and did his ceremony

1907
01:12:14,030 --> 01:12:12,120
and that night it rained and it rained

1908
01:12:16,130 --> 01:12:14,040
for three or four days straight

1909
01:12:18,410 --> 01:12:16,140
and they finally asked him why did your

1910
01:12:20,450 --> 01:12:18,420
ceremony work when the others didn't and

1911
01:12:22,910 --> 01:12:20,460
he said oh the other medicine men were

1912
01:12:24,709 --> 01:12:22,920
praying for rain and when you pray for

1913
01:12:25,729 --> 01:12:24,719
something that means it doesn't exist

1914
01:12:28,189 --> 01:12:25,739
now

1915
01:12:30,470 --> 01:12:28,199
I just prayed rain

1916
01:12:33,530 --> 01:12:30,480
and when I shared this back with Jerry I

1917
01:12:36,169 --> 01:12:33,540
said so what actually happened is he

1918
01:12:38,930 --> 01:12:36,179
first became rain he wasn't human

1919
01:12:41,750 --> 01:12:38,940
medicine man praying to rain he was rain

1920
01:12:44,149 --> 01:12:41,760
praying to rain so the only thing that

1921
01:12:45,830 --> 01:12:44,159
existed in the reality was rain so of

1922
01:12:47,570 --> 01:12:45,840
course it would have to rain

1923
01:12:48,709 --> 01:12:47,580
and he said yeah that's exactly the way

1924
01:12:51,229 --> 01:12:48,719
it worked and he told me some other

1925
01:12:53,390 --> 01:12:51,239
stories of his uncle bear heart that had

1926
01:12:55,010 --> 01:12:53,400
gone through similar experiences and I

1927
01:12:56,870 --> 01:12:55,020
took that out into the forest the next

1928
01:12:59,090 --> 01:12:56,880
day because it was it's blueberry season

1929
01:13:01,430 --> 01:12:59,100
and I love to get my blueberries for the

1930
01:13:03,229 --> 01:13:01,440
winter normally I always pray I always

1931
01:13:04,850 --> 01:13:03,239
leave an offering and I thank the forest

1932
01:13:06,830 --> 01:13:04,860
I thank the blueberries before I start

1933
01:13:09,050 --> 01:13:06,840
but then I thought well this time

1934
01:13:11,090 --> 01:13:09,060
before I do that I'm going to become a

1935
01:13:13,490 --> 01:13:11,100
blueberry so it's not going to be human

1936
01:13:15,290 --> 01:13:13,500
person giving the offering I'm going to

1937
01:13:16,490 --> 01:13:15,300
be a blueberry giving the offering to

1938
01:13:19,070 --> 01:13:16,500
the blueberries

1939
01:13:20,810 --> 01:13:19,080
when that was done I found more

1940
01:13:22,490 --> 01:13:20,820
blueberries than I could have possibly

1941
01:13:25,370 --> 01:13:22,500
picked in a week

1942
01:13:27,229 --> 01:13:25,380
it was the most unbelievable thing to

1943
01:13:30,590 --> 01:13:27,239
realize that this is like an

1944
01:13:33,649 --> 01:13:30,600
unbelievable secret when you become the

1945
01:13:35,810 --> 01:13:33,659
thing that you are praying to or for

1946
01:13:38,990 --> 01:13:35,820
the creation of it in the reality is

1947
01:13:40,669 --> 01:13:39,000
almost automatic and it was like that

1948
01:13:42,830 --> 01:13:40,679
was like getting the secret of secrets

1949
01:13:45,350 --> 01:13:42,840
in the manifestation in the simulation

1950
01:13:46,850 --> 01:13:45,360
itself so that's something I just it's

1951
01:13:49,310 --> 01:13:46,860
important that I want to pass on to

1952
01:13:51,590 --> 01:13:49,320
everybody this idea of if you start

1953
01:13:53,570 --> 01:13:51,600
changing how you pray start changing

1954
01:13:55,729 --> 01:13:53,580
what prayer means to you you might

1955
01:13:58,490 --> 01:13:55,739
notice you're getting a really different

1956
01:14:00,890 --> 01:13:58,500
response from the energy and the effort

1957
01:14:03,350 --> 01:14:00,900
you put into it hmm

1958
01:14:04,910 --> 01:14:03,360
yeah I think that's really well said on

1959
01:14:07,430 --> 01:14:04,920
the occasions where I have talked to

1960
01:14:09,950 --> 01:14:07,440
occultists or magic practitioners they

1961
01:14:12,770 --> 01:14:09,960
emphasize that point as well that it is

1962
01:14:17,149 --> 01:14:12,780
important to speak in the present tense

1963
01:14:20,149 --> 01:14:17,159
or in very specific language because

1964
01:14:21,890 --> 01:14:20,159
the universe let's just say doesn't

1965
01:14:24,470 --> 01:14:21,900
really understand

1966
01:14:26,390 --> 01:14:24,480
the word not or whatever so you have to

1967
01:14:28,610 --> 01:14:26,400
talk as if you already have the thing

1968
01:14:31,550 --> 01:14:28,620
you want that's how you step into your

1969
01:14:34,130 --> 01:14:31,560
reality it's how manifestation works and

1970
01:14:37,669 --> 01:14:34,140
uh when I hear so many different people

1971
01:14:39,590 --> 01:14:37,679
making that point it leads me to believe

1972
01:14:43,189 --> 01:14:39,600
that it's probably very correct and

1973
01:14:45,050 --> 01:14:43,199
it'll increase your potency and we can

1974
01:14:46,910 --> 01:14:45,060
call that the first hour and we can

1975
01:14:49,550 --> 01:14:46,920
start off that second hour with the

1976
01:14:53,390 --> 01:14:49,560
kathars if you like but I'm curious if

1977
01:14:56,390 --> 01:14:53,400
their focus was getting out well how did

1978
01:14:58,130 --> 01:14:56,400
they do that in their day exactly the

1979
01:15:00,110 --> 01:14:58,140
question I had

1980
01:15:02,570 --> 01:15:00,120
I studied the mysteries of Southern

1981
01:15:04,189 --> 01:15:02,580
France now for almost 10 or 15 years I

1982
01:15:06,470 --> 01:15:04,199
started with the ren La Chateau story

1983
01:15:08,090 --> 01:15:06,480
dug into that tried to find out what was

1984
01:15:09,770 --> 01:15:08,100
true or not true about that moved into

1985
01:15:11,689 --> 01:15:09,780
the night's Templar moved into the

1986
01:15:13,729 --> 01:15:11,699
cathars moved into the Gauls moved into

1987
01:15:15,530 --> 01:15:13,739
the real story potential story of Jesus

1988
01:15:18,530 --> 01:15:15,540
in the New Testament

1989
01:15:20,510 --> 01:15:18,540
and when I re-dug into the cathars I

1990
01:15:23,270 --> 01:15:20,520
thought well they've got to have a great

1991
01:15:24,709 --> 01:15:23,280
system in place obviously if they were

1992
01:15:27,770 --> 01:15:24,719
killed for it they must have a system

1993
01:15:29,990 --> 01:15:27,780
but once you dig into whatever is

1994
01:15:32,209 --> 01:15:30,000
remaining we have so little remaining of

1995
01:15:33,729 --> 01:15:32,219
what the cathars believed or did or

1996
01:15:37,610 --> 01:15:33,739
accessed

1997
01:15:39,830 --> 01:15:37,620
there's not much there and I was kind of

1998
01:15:41,930 --> 01:15:39,840
surprised and I'm happy to share what I

1999
01:15:44,030 --> 01:15:41,940
found with you because what I did get

2000
01:15:45,709 --> 01:15:44,040
out of it makes me wonder

2001
01:15:47,030 --> 01:15:45,719
either they were doing something else

2002
01:15:49,310 --> 01:15:47,040
and they managed even through the

2003
01:15:52,669 --> 01:15:49,320
Inquisition to keep that hidden from the

2004
01:15:53,990 --> 01:15:52,679
Church of Rome or they missed the steps

2005
01:15:55,729 --> 01:15:54,000
somewhere and they were kind of fooling

2006
01:15:58,850 --> 01:15:55,739
themselves I'm not sure which it was

2007
01:16:01,310 --> 01:15:58,860
because always that exiting the cave is

2008
01:16:03,830 --> 01:16:01,320
something so different from seeing the

2009
01:16:06,290 --> 01:16:03,840
cave clearly so we can talk about that

2010
01:16:09,169 --> 01:16:06,300
let's do it you know one of my

2011
01:16:12,169 --> 01:16:09,179
Curiosities is if we're gonna throw so

2012
01:16:13,910 --> 01:16:12,179
much doubt on official stories

2013
01:16:16,310 --> 01:16:13,920
maybe they weren't quote unquote

2014
01:16:18,430 --> 01:16:16,320
genocided maybe they did get out

2015
01:16:20,810 --> 01:16:18,440
there's another really interesting

2016
01:16:23,030 --> 01:16:20,820
Theory because the system is going to

2017
01:16:24,649 --> 01:16:23,040
have to have a cover story yeah that

2018
01:16:27,110 --> 01:16:24,659
maybe they because that's the story of

2019
01:16:29,149 --> 01:16:27,120
the Mayas too right we have this great

2020
01:16:30,729 --> 01:16:29,159
civilization and then all of a sudden

2021
01:16:33,890 --> 01:16:30,739
they just disappear

2022
01:16:35,810 --> 01:16:33,900
and archaeologists find no bodies they

2023
01:16:37,430 --> 01:16:35,820
find no evidence of warfare they find

2024
01:16:38,689 --> 01:16:37,440
you know it's just like they literally

2025
01:16:41,270 --> 01:16:38,699
disappeared

2026
01:16:43,669 --> 01:16:41,280
so same thing did they find a doorway

2027
01:16:45,290 --> 01:16:43,679
and just banished on their own and then

2028
01:16:47,450 --> 01:16:45,300
like you say maybe the cathars did that

2029
01:16:49,490 --> 01:16:47,460
and then a story was created around them

2030
01:16:51,169 --> 01:16:49,500
I'm not so sure because

2031
01:16:52,669 --> 01:16:51,179
one of the strange things that happens

2032
01:16:54,470 --> 01:16:52,679
about the cathars that maybe start

2033
01:16:56,930 --> 01:16:54,480
questioning this was a book from the

2034
01:16:58,250 --> 01:16:56,940
1970s by a psychologist wow I can't

2035
01:17:00,229 --> 01:16:58,260
think of his name now

2036
01:17:02,750 --> 01:17:00,239
Goodman or something who lived in bath

2037
01:17:04,850 --> 01:17:02,760
England and claimed in the course of his

2038
01:17:07,189 --> 01:17:04,860
various psychological studies that he

2039
01:17:09,950 --> 01:17:07,199
was getting continuous

2040
01:17:13,490 --> 01:17:09,960
people claiming to be reincarnated

2041
01:17:15,229 --> 01:17:13,500
cathars and that he had like 20 or 30 of

2042
01:17:16,970 --> 01:17:15,239
them who were giving him information

2043
01:17:18,890 --> 01:17:16,980
that they shouldn't have and they would

2044
01:17:21,350 --> 01:17:18,900
go to France and they would verify this

2045
01:17:23,510 --> 01:17:21,360
information so that was another thing

2046
01:17:27,590 --> 01:17:23,520
that made me wonder okay if the cathars

2047
01:17:29,270 --> 01:17:27,600
hole presentation was exiting The

2048
01:17:31,490 --> 01:17:29,280
Reincarnation cycle

2049
01:17:33,709 --> 01:17:31,500
if someone is still reincarnating and

2050
01:17:36,169 --> 01:17:33,719
still reincarnating six or seven hundred

2051
01:17:40,189 --> 01:17:36,179
years in the future something went wrong

2052
01:17:41,990 --> 01:17:40,199
somewhere so did only certain cathars

2053
01:17:44,750 --> 01:17:42,000
figure it out at only certain at certain

2054
01:17:46,970 --> 01:17:44,760
times was it later on because we know

2055
01:17:49,310 --> 01:17:46,980
the cathars existed much longer than

2056
01:17:51,530 --> 01:17:49,320
their claimed to exist so did certain

2057
01:17:53,090 --> 01:17:51,540
ones only have the right exit tools

2058
01:17:54,950 --> 01:17:53,100
others didn't I don't know but it's

2059
01:17:57,290 --> 01:17:54,960
stories like that with the constant

2060
01:17:59,689 --> 01:17:57,300
claim of I was a reincarnated cathar

2061
01:18:01,430 --> 01:17:59,699
story that makes me wonder well if that

2062
01:18:03,410 --> 01:18:01,440
was the whole purpose of your stories

2063
01:18:04,729 --> 01:18:03,420
that no one asked them I wish someone

2064
01:18:06,530 --> 01:18:04,739
would ask like

2065
01:18:09,110 --> 01:18:06,540
okay you say you're a reincarnated

2066
01:18:10,490 --> 01:18:09,120
cathar yes okay so if your whole

2067
01:18:12,290 --> 01:18:10,500
teaching is about ending The

2068
01:18:14,630 --> 01:18:12,300
Reincarnation cycle why are you still

2069
01:18:16,490 --> 01:18:14,640
reincarnating I mean that would be the

2070
01:18:18,950 --> 01:18:16,500
most powerful information all of us

2071
01:18:20,240 --> 01:18:18,960
could get but no one seemed to ask that

2072
01:18:21,590 --> 01:18:20,250
question

2073
01:18:24,470 --> 01:18:21,600
[Music]

2074
01:18:26,990 --> 01:18:24,480
yeah it just makes me think that maybe

2075
01:18:29,330 --> 01:18:27,000
certain groups have

2076
01:18:31,070 --> 01:18:29,340
jailbroken out of here maybe the heavens

2077
01:18:33,830 --> 01:18:31,080
Gate cult figured it out and they were

2078
01:18:35,630 --> 01:18:33,840
only made to seem stupid for the people

2079
01:18:37,130 --> 01:18:35,640
left inside the game like hey don't pay

2080
01:18:39,890 --> 01:18:37,140
attention to what they're doing they're

2081
01:18:41,570 --> 01:18:39,900
just a bunch of idiots wearing Nikes and

2082
01:18:43,189 --> 01:18:41,580
killing themselves you don't want to go

2083
01:18:45,530 --> 01:18:43,199
down that road so don't you worry about

2084
01:18:48,350 --> 01:18:45,540
that over there meanwhile maybe they

2085
01:18:49,910 --> 01:18:48,360
found an opening and got out I know most

2086
01:18:51,410 --> 01:18:49,920
of the time of course is written and of

2087
01:18:53,870 --> 01:18:51,420
course I wrote a lot about it in my book

2088
01:18:56,270 --> 01:18:53,880
of sort of this how to exit after you

2089
01:18:57,770 --> 01:18:56,280
die period how to avoid some traps and

2090
01:19:00,890 --> 01:18:57,780
deceptions and deal with the after death

2091
01:19:02,750 --> 01:19:00,900
state but I would also for sure say that

2092
01:19:04,610 --> 01:19:02,760
there must be a way to do it before you

2093
01:19:06,470 --> 01:19:04,620
die there would have to be a way to

2094
01:19:08,630 --> 01:19:06,480
almost I heard it described as pop out

2095
01:19:12,350 --> 01:19:08,640
of the Matrix that literally just

2096
01:19:15,890 --> 01:19:12,360
now you're gone but I think it requires

2097
01:19:18,590 --> 01:19:15,900
quite a bit of preparation I get a sense

2098
01:19:20,510 --> 01:19:18,600
that one way or another Carlos Castaneda

2099
01:19:22,010 --> 01:19:20,520
in his own way was writing some of these

2100
01:19:24,110 --> 01:19:22,020
ideas that

2101
01:19:25,970 --> 01:19:24,120
I don't think of course he had total

2102
01:19:28,250 --> 01:19:25,980
knowledge and there was lots of question

2103
01:19:30,350 --> 01:19:28,260
marks about him and how he lived his

2104
01:19:32,090 --> 01:19:30,360
life and the strangeness of his own life

2105
01:19:34,610 --> 01:19:32,100
but in the writings I think are some of

2106
01:19:36,770 --> 01:19:34,620
these ideas that could have become a pop

2107
01:19:39,050 --> 01:19:36,780
out of the Matrix moment and I don't

2108
01:19:41,750 --> 01:19:39,060
doubt that certain individuals and

2109
01:19:43,970 --> 01:19:41,760
certain groups did understand how to do

2110
01:19:45,350 --> 01:19:43,980
this I was told a story by a friend of

2111
01:19:48,110 --> 01:19:45,360
mine I don't know if I should say this

2112
01:19:50,390 --> 01:19:48,120
but maybe I will say I should that there

2113
01:19:52,490 --> 01:19:50,400
was a book that existed in their family

2114
01:19:56,149 --> 01:19:52,500
they come from the her families from the

2115
01:19:57,890 --> 01:19:56,159
southeast Europe so Gypsy country and

2116
01:19:59,630 --> 01:19:57,900
that there was a particular book that

2117
01:20:02,030 --> 01:19:59,640
was in her family and if you read the

2118
01:20:04,729 --> 01:20:02,040
book and did every single thing in this

2119
01:20:06,649 --> 01:20:04,739
book completely perfectly exactly as the

2120
01:20:10,370 --> 01:20:06,659
book said when you were finished it you

2121
01:20:12,290 --> 01:20:10,380
would disappear damn so I think this

2122
01:20:16,010 --> 01:20:12,300
knowledge does actually exist out there

2123
01:20:18,229 --> 01:20:16,020
in some very hidden underground form

2124
01:20:21,290 --> 01:20:18,239
there must be ways to do it but it also

2125
01:20:23,810 --> 01:20:21,300
seems like it's not something you you

2126
01:20:25,729 --> 01:20:23,820
learn in 24 hours that there's a

2127
01:20:28,010 --> 01:20:25,739
tremendous amount of learning not just

2128
01:20:30,110 --> 01:20:28,020
to deal handle the material body the

2129
01:20:31,910 --> 01:20:30,120
mental body the etheric body the astral

2130
01:20:33,050 --> 01:20:31,920
body the whatever other body that all of

2131
01:20:35,090 --> 01:20:33,060
these things have to be really

2132
01:20:36,110 --> 01:20:35,100
fine-tuned and I think you've got to

2133
01:20:38,090 --> 01:20:36,120
then know

2134
01:20:39,830 --> 01:20:38,100
you might say where the crack or the

2135
01:20:41,030 --> 01:20:39,840
portal or whatever it is to make the

2136
01:20:44,689 --> 01:20:41,040
jump out

2137
01:20:47,149 --> 01:20:44,699
mm-hmm and as we're trying to find some

2138
01:20:49,310 --> 01:20:47,159
way to wrap up all the wild stuff we

2139
01:20:51,350 --> 01:20:49,320
talked about I was listening to one of

2140
01:20:53,450 --> 01:20:51,360
your previous interviews about the new

2141
01:20:56,330 --> 01:20:53,460
soul trap book and you were getting

2142
01:20:58,910 --> 01:20:56,340
pretty worked up saying that this era is

2143
01:21:02,149 --> 01:20:58,920
so important nothing is getting fixed we

2144
01:21:04,070 --> 01:21:02,159
have maybe six to 12 months left and if

2145
01:21:05,930 --> 01:21:04,080
the whole thing isn't shut down in six

2146
01:21:09,770 --> 01:21:05,940
to 12 months it'll never be shut down

2147
01:21:13,130 --> 01:21:09,780
the game is that close to being finished

2148
01:21:14,750 --> 01:21:13,140
pretty bold statements as we're pulling

2149
01:21:15,709 --> 01:21:14,760
this all together do you still feel that

2150
01:21:20,570 --> 01:21:15,719
way

2151
01:21:22,669 --> 01:21:20,580
tried to present it's so hard to try to

2152
01:21:24,290 --> 01:21:22,679
say especially when you you know you got

2153
01:21:26,630 --> 01:21:24,300
the energy in it but

2154
01:21:27,950 --> 01:21:26,640
I felt that this was about yeah six

2155
01:21:29,870 --> 01:21:27,960
months ago maybe

2156
01:21:31,850 --> 01:21:29,880
yeah we were in like about a nine or ten

2157
01:21:33,950 --> 01:21:31,860
month period where there's going to be a

2158
01:21:35,990 --> 01:21:33,960
pretty massive event and we're starting

2159
01:21:37,130 --> 01:21:36,000
to see how many balls are in the air

2160
01:21:40,850 --> 01:21:37,140
right now

2161
01:21:44,290 --> 01:21:40,860
and that this event is going to

2162
01:21:49,910 --> 01:21:44,300
guarantee lead this into the next reset

2163
01:21:51,590 --> 01:21:49,920
and if people don't recognize it and

2164
01:21:53,510 --> 01:21:51,600
and I don't know if it can be changed

2165
01:21:55,189 --> 01:21:53,520
this is another important part I'm not

2166
01:21:58,250 --> 01:21:55,199
sure that whatever this event is going

2167
01:22:00,530 --> 01:21:58,260
to be that we can fix it what we can do

2168
01:22:01,970 --> 01:22:00,540
is recognize it's happening

2169
01:22:04,910 --> 01:22:01,980
and

2170
01:22:06,229 --> 01:22:04,920
most importantly move into our own power

2171
01:22:08,149 --> 01:22:06,239
that's really what all this is about

2172
01:22:10,370 --> 01:22:08,159
anyway the whole thing we've talked

2173
01:22:11,570 --> 01:22:10,380
about for the last couple of hours it's

2174
01:22:14,090 --> 01:22:11,580
all about

2175
01:22:16,790 --> 01:22:14,100
while you go externally and you look

2176
01:22:18,290 --> 01:22:16,800
externally and you explore the Cave the

2177
01:22:20,450 --> 01:22:18,300
most important thing you have to explore

2178
01:22:22,669 --> 01:22:20,460
is yourself and the most important thing

2179
01:22:24,649 --> 01:22:22,679
you we have to do is called going within

2180
01:22:27,050 --> 01:22:24,659
or spiraling within or following the

2181
01:22:29,090 --> 01:22:27,060
Labyrinth within to the place of our own

2182
01:22:32,030 --> 01:22:29,100
power to the place of all the things

2183
01:22:35,149 --> 01:22:32,040
we've kind of rejected about our true

2184
01:22:37,370 --> 01:22:35,159
nature all of us every single person

2185
01:22:40,130 --> 01:22:37,380
whether they know it or not has more

2186
01:22:42,410 --> 01:22:40,140
power than they can possibly believe has

2187
01:22:45,050 --> 01:22:42,420
more access to everything you'd ever

2188
01:22:47,810 --> 01:22:45,060
want to know but if we focus that on

2189
01:22:49,790 --> 01:22:47,820
trying to fix external if we focus that

2190
01:22:51,470 --> 01:22:49,800
on trying to say the world is insane or

2191
01:22:54,050 --> 01:22:51,480
the world is going and saying that I

2192
01:22:56,689 --> 01:22:54,060
need to fix it we're already losing a

2193
01:22:59,689 --> 01:22:56,699
lot of our power that instead we want to

2194
01:23:02,689 --> 01:22:59,699
I think in my opinion deepen that power

2195
01:23:04,490 --> 01:23:02,699
deepen our connection to it help others

2196
01:23:07,370 --> 01:23:04,500
to make that connection as well to

2197
01:23:09,290 --> 01:23:07,380
deepen our own power what happens to the

2198
01:23:12,110 --> 01:23:09,300
rest of reality around us because of it

2199
01:23:16,010 --> 01:23:12,120
will happen as it happens we're not

2200
01:23:18,649 --> 01:23:16,020
focused on fixing it we're focused on

2201
01:23:22,189 --> 01:23:18,659
taking ourselves to the totality of what

2202
01:23:25,550 --> 01:23:22,199
we are and allowing that to be our guide

2203
01:23:26,930 --> 01:23:25,560
to in my case of course to leave the

2204
01:23:29,030 --> 01:23:26,940
cave but it might be different for

2205
01:23:30,830 --> 01:23:29,040
everybody but it's then following our

2206
01:23:33,229 --> 01:23:30,840
own Inner Path and our own inner Journey

2207
01:23:34,790 --> 01:23:33,239
the point I was making is don't think

2208
01:23:37,790 --> 01:23:34,800
you've got 10 or 20 years to do this

2209
01:23:40,430 --> 01:23:37,800
work anymore it's not 1980 you know the

2210
01:23:42,590 --> 01:23:40,440
things that applied in 1980 or 1990 and

2211
01:23:43,970 --> 01:23:42,600
the things of self-help Guru said and

2212
01:23:46,430 --> 01:23:43,980
all the spiritual books that came out

2213
01:23:49,370 --> 01:23:46,440
they don't apply anymore all of that is

2214
01:23:51,530 --> 01:23:49,380
no longer relevant we are in a very

2215
01:23:53,630 --> 01:23:51,540
compressed time frame now in a very

2216
01:23:55,610 --> 01:23:53,640
compressed energetic state

2217
01:23:57,110 --> 01:23:55,620
that means there's a great opening

2218
01:23:58,850 --> 01:23:57,120
there's a great portal there's a great

2219
01:24:00,770 --> 01:23:58,860
possibility for knowledge a lot of

2220
01:24:02,630 --> 01:24:00,780
people are getting tremendous amounts of

2221
01:24:04,490 --> 01:24:02,640
knowledge very very quickly right now

2222
01:24:06,229 --> 01:24:04,500
it's overwhelming for a lot of people

2223
01:24:07,010 --> 01:24:06,239
they're having a tough time dealing with

2224
01:24:08,990 --> 01:24:07,020
it

2225
01:24:10,910 --> 01:24:09,000
now is the time to not only work for

2226
01:24:12,950 --> 01:24:10,920
yourself to

2227
01:24:15,530 --> 01:24:12,960
finish the job that you started you

2228
01:24:17,810 --> 01:24:15,540
might say of a path to truth helping

2229
01:24:19,790 --> 01:24:17,820
those that are particularly coming to

2230
01:24:21,410 --> 01:24:19,800
knowledge very very more quick than

2231
01:24:24,350 --> 01:24:21,420
they're ready for and need some help

2232
01:24:26,689 --> 01:24:24,360
need some help to apply what's going on

2233
01:24:28,669 --> 01:24:26,699
understand what's going on because again

2234
01:24:30,350 --> 01:24:28,679
things that would normally have five or

2235
01:24:32,390 --> 01:24:30,360
ten years to assimilate and work through

2236
01:24:33,950 --> 01:24:32,400
you've got you know five or ten months

2237
01:24:37,370 --> 01:24:33,960
now five or ten weeks

2238
01:24:40,189 --> 01:24:37,380
and so my point was not in a sense to

2239
01:24:43,729 --> 01:24:40,199
scare anyone not to present Doom or

2240
01:24:45,229 --> 01:24:43,739
anything it was to say but actually this

2241
01:24:47,570 --> 01:24:45,239
is going to change and it's going to

2242
01:24:51,530 --> 01:24:47,580
become potentially really really crazy

2243
01:24:53,330 --> 01:24:51,540
really really quickly so Focus your time

2244
01:24:55,189 --> 01:24:53,340
and energy on what's absolutely most

2245
01:24:57,169 --> 01:24:55,199
important to you

2246
01:24:59,930 --> 01:24:57,179
if you don't know what's important start

2247
01:25:01,250 --> 01:24:59,940
asking today what is the most important

2248
01:25:02,689 --> 01:25:01,260
thing in my life what is the most

2249
01:25:04,790 --> 01:25:02,699
important thing I want to put my time

2250
01:25:06,530 --> 01:25:04,800
and my energy in put your time in that

2251
01:25:08,990 --> 01:25:06,540
maybe it's I just want to spend time

2252
01:25:10,729 --> 01:25:09,000
with my kids and my dog and my family

2253
01:25:13,370 --> 01:25:10,739
and that's the most important thing in

2254
01:25:15,350 --> 01:25:13,380
my life then do it I mean don't wait for

2255
01:25:18,770 --> 01:25:15,360
next year to do that do it right now

2256
01:25:20,689 --> 01:25:18,780
because the way this reset is seemingly

2257
01:25:22,490 --> 01:25:20,699
structured we don't know how long we've

2258
01:25:24,530 --> 01:25:22,500
got to do anything so find out what's

2259
01:25:26,689 --> 01:25:24,540
most important to you put your time and

2260
01:25:29,270 --> 01:25:26,699
effort into that then no matter what

2261
01:25:31,910 --> 01:25:29,280
happens even if nothing happens and the

2262
01:25:34,070 --> 01:25:31,920
whole thing becomes a magic Wonderland

2263
01:25:36,410 --> 01:25:34,080
you're not going to be disappointed and

2264
01:25:38,450 --> 01:25:36,420
say I wished I'd put my time and effort

2265
01:25:40,550 --> 01:25:38,460
into this when I had the chance you did

2266
01:25:42,770 --> 01:25:40,560
so put your time and effort into what's

2267
01:25:44,990 --> 01:25:42,780
important to you and no matter what

2268
01:25:47,090 --> 01:25:45,000
happens from that you'll be glad you did

2269
01:25:47,649 --> 01:25:47,100
down the road

2270
01:25:50,209 --> 01:25:47,659
um

2271
01:25:52,430 --> 01:25:50,219
I love it great way to bring it home

2272
01:25:56,330 --> 01:25:52,440
what a pro it's like you've done this

2273
01:25:57,890 --> 01:25:56,340
before but damn well howdy this was a

2274
01:25:59,990 --> 01:25:57,900
whirlwind of fun stuff to think about

2275
01:26:01,970 --> 01:26:00,000
the wisdom of the Ancients and the

2276
01:26:04,129 --> 01:26:01,980
indigenous The Oddities and the timeline

2277
01:26:07,430 --> 01:26:04,139
the world's fairs and the trap of all

2278
01:26:09,169 --> 01:26:07,440
traps The Reincarnation cycle really had

2279
01:26:11,570 --> 01:26:09,179
a good time with you today give the

2280
01:26:13,970 --> 01:26:11,580
people your links and the info they need

2281
01:26:16,070 --> 01:26:13,980
to dig in deeper if they want more than

2282
01:26:18,050 --> 01:26:16,080
the taste they got today

2283
01:26:19,790 --> 01:26:18,060
thanks Greg I've been actually looking

2284
01:26:22,010 --> 01:26:19,800
forward to this for a long time I've

2285
01:26:24,290 --> 01:26:22,020
really liked the work you do I like how

2286
01:26:26,270 --> 01:26:24,300
prepared you are for the interviews how

2287
01:26:28,790 --> 01:26:26,280
smooth you make the interviews happen so

2288
01:26:30,530 --> 01:26:28,800
thank you again for having me on on as

2289
01:26:32,270 --> 01:26:30,540
your guest today and if people are

2290
01:26:35,209 --> 01:26:32,280
interested you can look for information

2291
01:26:36,709 --> 01:26:35,219
on my books at the very terribly named I

2292
01:26:38,890 --> 01:26:36,719
can't believe I named my website this

2293
01:26:41,570 --> 01:26:38,900
but it's Egyptian Dash

2294
01:26:43,729 --> 01:26:41,580
wisdom-revealed.com it's probably easier

2295
01:26:46,189 --> 01:26:43,739
to just Google search my name and get to

2296
01:26:48,530 --> 01:26:46,199
it that way you can also see most of the

2297
01:26:50,689 --> 01:26:48,540
books on Amazon exit the cave is just

2298
01:26:53,270 --> 01:26:50,699
out it's new it's only about three weeks

2299
01:26:55,850 --> 01:26:53,280
out it's only as a PDF ebook at this

2300
01:26:58,270 --> 01:26:55,860
time it's by donation actually minimum

2301
01:27:02,629 --> 01:26:58,280
five dollars which I think is great for

2302
01:27:03,830 --> 01:27:02,639
500 or a 200 Page 15 chapter book of

2303
01:27:05,810 --> 01:27:03,840
information

2304
01:27:08,209 --> 01:27:05,820
we're hoping to have it out soon as a

2305
01:27:11,689 --> 01:27:08,219
print book maybe October and an

2306
01:27:13,430 --> 01:27:11,699
audiobook later in November but you can

2307
01:27:14,810 --> 01:27:13,440
go to the website and check out the

2308
01:27:16,189 --> 01:27:14,820
information on that book the other books

2309
01:27:19,010 --> 01:27:16,199
you can find on Amazon or your local

2310
01:27:21,290 --> 01:27:19,020
Bookseller and you can go to YouTube to

2311
01:27:23,810 --> 01:27:21,300
I'm still there for now howdy McCoskey

2312
01:27:26,090 --> 01:27:23,820
talks and there's I think 300 videos

2313
01:27:28,189 --> 01:27:26,100
there that you can look through and find

2314
01:27:29,689 --> 01:27:28,199
a subject that's interesting to you my

2315
01:27:31,729 --> 01:27:29,699
email can be found through both that

2316
01:27:32,930 --> 01:27:31,739
YouTube and my own site if you have

2317
01:27:35,270 --> 01:27:32,940
something to share or you have a

2318
01:27:37,070 --> 01:27:35,280
question to ask or I do get a lot of

2319
01:27:38,570 --> 01:27:37,080
really useful information that comes to

2320
01:27:40,370 --> 01:27:38,580
me from people dropping an email so

2321
01:27:43,430 --> 01:27:40,380
you're more than welcome to do that and

2322
01:27:45,350 --> 01:27:43,440
yeah thanks again for sharing your time

2323
01:27:47,090 --> 01:27:45,360
and listening along with our

2324
01:27:49,910 --> 01:27:47,100
conversation that we've had I I really

2325
01:27:51,950 --> 01:27:49,920
enjoyed this one yeah man me too thank

2326
01:27:54,530 --> 01:27:51,960
you for the kind words and I appreciate

2327
01:27:57,830 --> 01:27:54,540
you going closer to almost three hours

2328
01:28:00,229 --> 01:27:57,840
with me uh you are the man I'm glad you

2329
01:28:02,090 --> 01:28:00,239
found a passion in life before the

2330
01:28:05,209 --> 01:28:02,100
depression took you over the edge not

2331
01:28:07,370 --> 01:28:05,219
everyone is so lucky but you really have

2332
01:28:09,709 --> 01:28:07,380
forged your own path and it's impressive

2333
01:28:12,350 --> 01:28:09,719
and this was quite enjoyable keep up the

2334
01:28:14,990 --> 01:28:12,360
great work and take care thanks Greg all

2335
01:28:22,250 --> 01:28:19,010
sweet big Cathedral energy Batman I am a

2336
01:28:24,890 --> 01:28:22,260
fan of this one locking in it well over

2337
01:28:28,010 --> 01:28:24,900
two hours can you believe it

2338
01:28:30,229 --> 01:28:28,020
Howdy's a fun guy exploring all sorts of

2339
01:28:32,750 --> 01:28:30,239
slices of the mysterious pie of Life

2340
01:28:34,729 --> 01:28:32,760
pulled himself out of a deep depression

2341
01:28:36,470 --> 01:28:34,739
and went balls to the wall

2342
01:28:38,870 --> 01:28:36,480
I think you know by now that one of my

2343
01:28:41,330 --> 01:28:38,880
favorite avenues for exploring the idea

2344
01:28:43,490 --> 01:28:41,340
of a reset or a radically different past

2345
01:28:47,090 --> 01:28:43,500
that has been glossed over and forgotten

2346
01:28:49,370 --> 01:28:47,100
is the world's fairs it's a subject that

2347
01:28:51,830 --> 01:28:49,380
butts right up against Tesla and the

2348
01:28:53,270 --> 01:28:51,840
secret Tech stuff the size and scope of

2349
01:28:56,390 --> 01:28:53,280
these events at a time when getting

2350
01:28:58,790 --> 01:28:56,400
around the planet wasn't at all easy

2351
01:29:01,669 --> 01:28:58,800
and looking at all those details that

2352
01:29:03,890 --> 01:29:01,679
howdy has extracted I mean it's just a

2353
01:29:05,870 --> 01:29:03,900
big wow from me

2354
01:29:07,729 --> 01:29:05,880
and I know that ended up being deep

2355
01:29:09,169 --> 01:29:07,739
second hour stuff though it would have

2356
01:29:12,290 --> 01:29:09,179
been the first thing I asked him about

2357
01:29:14,330 --> 01:29:12,300
but my rule of thumb is always to try to

2358
01:29:15,649 --> 01:29:14,340
get a person's latest work into the

2359
01:29:18,290 --> 01:29:15,659
first hour

2360
01:29:20,570 --> 01:29:18,300
it just feels like that is what I should

2361
01:29:22,970 --> 01:29:20,580
do and that material is interesting as

2362
01:29:26,450 --> 01:29:22,980
well no doubt and when we're talking

2363
01:29:28,310 --> 01:29:26,460
simulation type stuff the idea of NPCs

2364
01:29:30,169 --> 01:29:28,320
is also fascinating

2365
01:29:32,810 --> 01:29:30,179
it's basically just a couple degrees

2366
01:29:35,510 --> 01:29:32,820
over from reptilians which is a couple

2367
01:29:37,370 --> 01:29:35,520
degrees over from Psychopaths

2368
01:29:40,070 --> 01:29:37,380
it also jives with The Hidden Hand

2369
01:29:42,709 --> 01:29:40,080
material which was all about the elite

2370
01:29:45,709 --> 01:29:42,719
reincarnating into the same families to

2371
01:29:46,729 --> 01:29:45,719
maintain that level of control over the

2372
01:29:49,669 --> 01:29:46,739
game

2373
01:29:52,010 --> 01:29:49,679
but it all speaks to that idea that some

2374
01:29:54,050 --> 01:29:52,020
people are not like you and me

2375
01:29:55,910 --> 01:29:54,060
are they a different kind of creature

2376
01:29:59,689 --> 01:29:55,920
are they from a different planet are

2377
01:30:01,970 --> 01:29:59,699
they agents of a conscious reality are

2378
01:30:03,350 --> 01:30:01,980
they bosses in the video game life to be

2379
01:30:05,870 --> 01:30:03,360
conquered

2380
01:30:07,729 --> 01:30:05,880
I guess that's yet to be determined but

2381
01:30:08,689 --> 01:30:07,739
something is certainly off with these

2382
01:30:11,570 --> 01:30:08,699
people

2383
01:30:14,570 --> 01:30:11,580
and who knows when a random character in

2384
01:30:16,490 --> 01:30:14,580
the game sends you on a trajectory that

2385
01:30:17,870 --> 01:30:16,500
seems subtle but ends up being quite

2386
01:30:20,209 --> 01:30:17,880
profound

2387
01:30:22,550 --> 01:30:20,219
it's worth thinking about so I love the

2388
01:30:24,290 --> 01:30:22,560
material I love his personal story I

2389
01:30:26,570 --> 01:30:24,300
think it's a great message to say that

2390
01:30:28,430 --> 01:30:26,580
if you've had enough if you're at your

2391
01:30:31,430 --> 01:30:28,440
Wit's End if you're at the end of your

2392
01:30:34,490 --> 01:30:31,440
rope don't just snuff out your own fire

2393
01:30:36,770 --> 01:30:34,500
Stoke it and burn off all the pain the

2394
01:30:37,850 --> 01:30:36,780
numbness the boredom and the unfulfilled

2395
01:30:39,830 --> 01:30:37,860
dreams

2396
01:30:41,750 --> 01:30:39,840
just go harder than you ever thought

2397
01:30:43,970 --> 01:30:41,760
possible and see where you end up when

2398
01:30:44,990 --> 01:30:43,980
you have nowhere to go but on that

2399
01:30:46,850 --> 01:30:45,000
Adventure

2400
01:30:48,770 --> 01:30:46,860
and howdy is gonna have to come back

2401
01:30:51,290 --> 01:30:48,780
sometime because we left a lot on the

2402
01:30:54,229 --> 01:30:51,300
table he's gone super deep on Dark City

2403
01:30:56,030 --> 01:30:54,239
he did a big 12-part series on renless

2404
01:30:57,229 --> 01:30:56,040
Chateau the cathars and the Knights

2405
01:31:00,050 --> 01:30:57,239
Templar

2406
01:31:02,270 --> 01:31:00,060
getting into the idea that Paris could

2407
01:31:05,209 --> 01:31:02,280
be the New Testament Jerusalem

2408
01:31:07,010 --> 01:31:05,219
it's odd but I like his creativity and

2409
01:31:08,930 --> 01:31:07,020
his willingness to go deep into

2410
01:31:11,629 --> 01:31:08,940
uncharted waters

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01:31:13,970 --> 01:31:11,639
plus the life experiences spending time

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01:31:16,310 --> 01:31:13,980
with the shamans and medicine men first

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01:31:19,070 --> 01:31:16,320
hand I'm a fan

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01:31:21,290 --> 01:31:19,080
I did record this one several weeks back

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01:31:23,810 --> 01:31:21,300
though so when we ended with him talking

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01:31:26,390 --> 01:31:23,820
about us having five or six good weeks

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01:31:27,709 --> 01:31:26,400
left that's basically down to two or

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01:31:29,870 --> 01:31:27,719
three now

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01:31:32,570 --> 01:31:29,880
and we all see the direction things are

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01:31:34,729 --> 01:31:32,580
going but sometimes I think these arcs

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01:31:37,310 --> 01:31:34,739
seem immediate when really they're much

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01:31:40,790 --> 01:31:37,320
longer than we think I can't remember if

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01:31:42,410 --> 01:31:40,800
Ice Age farmer was 2020 or 2021 but he

2424
01:31:44,570 --> 01:31:42,420
definitely made it seem like we would

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01:31:46,790 --> 01:31:44,580
all be starving and dead by now because

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01:31:49,030 --> 01:31:46,800
there'd be no food anywhere

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01:31:52,189 --> 01:31:49,040
I also heard a clip the other day from

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01:31:55,070 --> 01:31:52,199
1997 where David Ike said the plan was

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01:31:57,470 --> 01:31:55,080
to create a virus in a lab let it out

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01:32:00,770 --> 01:31:57,480
and then create a global vaccination

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01:32:03,350 --> 01:32:00,780
campaign to call the population and gain

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01:32:05,450 --> 01:32:03,360
access to the human operating system he

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01:32:07,550 --> 01:32:05,460
also said they would change elder care

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01:32:12,530 --> 01:32:07,560
to kill off the elderly

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01:32:15,110 --> 01:32:12,540
in 1997 I was in the seventh grade

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01:32:17,750 --> 01:32:15,120
so was he wrong or was he extremely

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01:32:20,030 --> 01:32:17,760
right it sounds to me like a lot of

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01:32:23,810 --> 01:32:20,040
people would have said he was crazy as

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01:32:26,470 --> 01:32:23,820
he walked the long road to being right

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01:32:29,510 --> 01:32:26,480
so even with the world economic Forum

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01:32:31,850 --> 01:32:29,520
sustainable development goal stuff we

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01:32:35,390 --> 01:32:31,860
are throwing out warnings that might not

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01:32:37,790 --> 01:32:35,400
be obvious for five to eight years

2444
01:32:40,490 --> 01:32:37,800
and people have a super short memory so

2445
01:32:42,410 --> 01:32:40,500
we got to consider how long these plans

2446
01:32:44,930 --> 01:32:42,420
are sometimes

2447
01:32:47,330 --> 01:32:44,940
but I still love this one I don't share

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01:32:49,610 --> 01:32:47,340
Howdy's negative outlook on reality

2449
01:32:52,070 --> 01:32:49,620
itself as a structure

2450
01:32:53,570 --> 01:32:52,080
but as I said I'm in the beginning of a

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01:32:55,610 --> 01:32:53,580
story the middle really

2452
01:32:58,669 --> 01:32:55,620
and I'm well aware that nobody gets out

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01:33:02,149 --> 01:32:58,679
alive loss will be baked in but my first

2454
01:33:05,030 --> 01:33:02,159
38 years have been pretty damn enjoyable

2455
01:33:07,129 --> 01:33:05,040
and the negative pressures I felt from

2456
01:33:08,330 --> 01:33:07,139
the system led me to do this and this

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01:33:10,250 --> 01:33:08,340
has worked out

2458
01:33:13,970 --> 01:33:10,260
and look I'm not naive to the

2459
01:33:16,430 --> 01:33:13,980
possibilities but so far so good though

2460
01:33:19,189 --> 01:33:16,440
I understand why he feels how he feels

2461
01:33:20,629 --> 01:33:19,199
based on his experience so far and asked

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01:33:22,729 --> 01:33:20,639
me in another 10 years and I might be

2463
01:33:25,430 --> 01:33:22,739
more on his page who knows

2464
01:33:27,610 --> 01:33:25,440
and as good as the first half was you

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01:33:30,410 --> 01:33:27,620
know we got a second half for members

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01:33:32,390 --> 01:33:30,420
you can get a worthless blue check mark

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for eight bucks a month or you can get

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five high octane episodes of THC and it

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all starts with a free seven-day trial

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that you could get right now the higher

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01:33:44,870 --> 01:33:43,320
sidechats.com or click the top link

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01:33:47,209 --> 01:33:44,880
right there in the show notes of

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01:33:49,310 --> 01:33:47,219
whatever podcast app you're on

2474
01:33:52,129 --> 01:33:49,320
and the second hour today we talked

2475
01:33:54,649 --> 01:33:52,139
about recapitulation practices and how

2476
01:33:56,870 --> 01:33:54,659
important they are a deep dive on

2477
01:33:58,390 --> 01:33:56,880
Howdy's work on deconstructing the

2478
01:34:01,729 --> 01:33:58,400
world's fairs and international

2479
01:34:04,010 --> 01:34:01,739
expositions the multi-layer motivation

2480
01:34:06,709 --> 01:34:04,020
for throwing the fares

2481
01:34:08,629 --> 01:34:06,719
the strange history of The Architects of

2482
01:34:11,330 --> 01:34:08,639
these World fairs

2483
01:34:14,870 --> 01:34:11,340
some of Howdy's exploration stories and

2484
01:34:17,570 --> 01:34:14,880
his call to THC listeners insights from

2485
01:34:19,970 --> 01:34:17,580
those medicine men a deep dive into the

2486
01:34:23,030 --> 01:34:19,980
Buffalo World's Fair and its radical

2487
01:34:24,830 --> 01:34:23,040
brutality and we talked about the Temple

2488
01:34:26,330 --> 01:34:24,840
of music and the assassination of

2489
01:34:29,149 --> 01:34:26,340
President McKinley

2490
01:34:31,490 --> 01:34:29,159
very diverse and compelling range of

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01:34:33,470 --> 01:34:31,500
topics Bangor of an episode

2492
01:34:35,629 --> 01:34:33,480
in higher side news we're going to pop

2493
01:34:37,010 --> 01:34:35,639
over to that Meetup calendar and see

2494
01:34:39,050 --> 01:34:37,020
what's what

2495
01:34:41,270 --> 01:34:39,060
we are done with the first week of

2496
01:34:44,870 --> 01:34:41,280
November though I am looking at an event

2497
01:34:48,410 --> 01:34:44,880
today that I can barely pronounce but

2498
01:34:50,930 --> 01:34:48,420
it's in Ontario in utterson Canada

2499
01:34:53,870 --> 01:34:50,940
at the Raymond Community Hall

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01:34:56,629 --> 01:34:53,880
it says join me in the local seniors for

2501
01:34:58,970 --> 01:34:56,639
arousing Euchre Tournament entry fee two

2502
01:35:00,649 --> 01:34:58,980
dollars coffee included cash prizes for

2503
01:35:03,110 --> 01:35:00,659
the top three winners I have to look at

2504
01:35:05,810 --> 01:35:03,120
what Euchre even is I just Googled how

2505
01:35:08,930 --> 01:35:05,820
to pronounce it but I do like it and I

2506
01:35:10,310 --> 01:35:08,940
do like gambling and games that can win

2507
01:35:12,590 --> 01:35:10,320
people money

2508
01:35:15,770 --> 01:35:12,600
I wish I had had more time to promote it

2509
01:35:18,110 --> 01:35:15,780
but if you're in Ontario Canada and you

2510
01:35:19,189 --> 01:35:18,120
want to play Euchre there's a tournament

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01:35:21,649 --> 01:35:19,199
happening

2512
01:35:23,870 --> 01:35:21,659
then on the 11th we got the Topeka

2513
01:35:26,030 --> 01:35:23,880
Kansas Meetup at the Topeka Performing

2514
01:35:28,550 --> 01:35:26,040
Arts Center on the 12th we got an

2515
01:35:31,850 --> 01:35:28,560
Asheville North Carolina meetup on

2516
01:35:35,450 --> 01:35:31,860
November 13th a Utah meet up in Sandy

2517
01:35:37,550 --> 01:35:35,460
Utah at the Athena beans Bistro

2518
01:35:40,129 --> 01:35:37,560
November 16th getting together in

2519
01:35:43,490 --> 01:35:40,139
Seattle Washington again November 18th

2520
01:35:44,570 --> 01:35:43,500
going to the Durango Colorado Smiley

2521
01:35:46,550 --> 01:35:44,580
Cafe

2522
01:35:48,649 --> 01:35:46,560
and we got West Bridgewater

2523
01:35:51,110 --> 01:35:48,659
Massachusetts and Frederick Maryland

2524
01:35:52,850 --> 01:35:51,120
closing out November now I hope more

2525
01:35:54,830 --> 01:35:52,860
things get added always give me the

2526
01:35:56,870 --> 01:35:54,840
two-week lead time so I can promote the

2527
01:35:57,890 --> 01:35:56,880
event let people know so they don't miss

2528
01:36:00,110 --> 01:35:57,900
it

2529
01:36:03,229 --> 01:36:00,120
but that is a full calendar and I like

2530
01:36:04,850 --> 01:36:03,239
to see it people meeting people that's

2531
01:36:07,850 --> 01:36:04,860
life right

2532
01:36:09,950 --> 01:36:07,860
so really good show I don't have much

2533
01:36:12,590 --> 01:36:09,960
else to say big thanks to today's guest

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01:36:13,970 --> 01:36:12,600
check out his books and his videos tell

2535
01:36:15,229 --> 01:36:13,980
him you'll like the interview if you'd

2536
01:36:18,050 --> 01:36:15,239
be so kind

2537
01:36:20,510 --> 01:36:18,060
take care out there remember what's

2538
01:36:22,970 --> 01:36:20,520
important life is only getting crazier

2539
01:36:25,550 --> 01:36:22,980
and the big narratives are only trying

2540
01:36:29,330 --> 01:36:25,560
harder and harder to hook you in and

2541
01:36:31,430 --> 01:36:29,340
dominate your mindset that said I've

2542
01:36:33,830 --> 01:36:31,440
done my part your move simulation

2543
01:36:36,229 --> 01:36:33,840
concealers timeline troublemakers and

2544
01:36:40,370 --> 01:36:36,239
Plato's Cave captives

2545
01:36:48,189 --> 01:36:45,410
the truth has been hidden from me didn't

2546
01:36:52,310 --> 01:36:48,199
believe that myself

2547
01:36:58,810 --> 01:36:52,320
got lizard people on top of the world

2548
01:37:07,910 --> 01:37:02,750
believe it or not the truth is out there

2549
01:37:09,950 --> 01:37:07,920
for people who have the eyes to see my

2550
01:37:11,649 --> 01:37:09,960
favorite show makes me

2551
01:37:15,290 --> 01:37:11,659
aware

2552
01:37:19,150 --> 01:37:15,300
who could it be

2553
01:37:25,850 --> 01:37:19,160
the highest I chats THC

2554
01:37:25,860 --> 01:37:29,810
foreign

2555
01:37:37,750 --> 01:37:33,910
just watch the TV and Obey

2556
01:37:41,390 --> 01:37:37,760
take some more pills when you're blue

2557
01:37:44,629 --> 01:37:41,400
oh we'll break you out of the spell that

2558
01:37:48,310 --> 01:37:44,639
you're in together we will make it

2559
01:37:55,270 --> 01:37:52,370
believe it or not the truth is out there

2560
01:38:01,330 --> 01:37:55,280
for people who have the eyes to

2561
01:38:05,030 --> 01:38:01,340
see my favorite show makes me more aware

2562
01:38:06,450 --> 01:38:05,040
who could it be

2563
01:38:14,990 --> 01:38:06,460
true

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01:38:18,250 --> 01:38:15,000
[Music]

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01:38:23,470 --> 01:38:21,910
is here for you

2566
01:38:25,680 --> 01:38:23,480
[Music]

2567
01:38:27,669 --> 01:38:25,690
believe it or not

2568
01:38:31,810 --> 01:38:27,679
[Music]

2569
01:38:47,050 --> 01:38:31,820
believe it or not

2570
01:38:53,229 --> 01:38:47,060
for people who have the eyes to

2571
01:38:56,530 --> 01:38:53,239
see my favorite show makes me more aware

2572
01:39:00,830 --> 01:38:56,540
who could it be

2573
01:39:03,470 --> 01:39:00,840
the higher side shots believe it or not

2574
01:39:05,649 --> 01:39:03,480
not true the truth out there for people

2575
01:39:11,770 --> 01:39:05,659
who have the eyes to

2576
01:39:18,960 --> 01:39:11,780
see my favorite show makes me more aware

2577
01:39:21,709 --> 01:39:18,970
who could it be the highest I chats THC

2578
01:39:22,740 --> 01:39:21,719
[Applause]

2579
01:39:33,169 --> 01:39:22,750
foreign

2580
01:39:38,030 --> 01:39:35,750
and that is another show complete

2581
01:39:40,370 --> 01:39:38,040
remember as much as you enjoyed this

2582
01:39:42,169 --> 01:39:40,380
which is just the free first hour I hope

2583
01:39:44,930 --> 01:39:42,179
you'll become a plus member to hear the

2584
01:39:46,910 --> 01:39:44,940
full two-hour interviews you also can

2585
01:39:49,430 --> 01:39:46,920
engage with other Plus members in the

2586
01:39:50,810 --> 01:39:49,440
comments and the forums and you'll find

2587
01:39:52,910 --> 01:39:50,820
your answer to one of the most common

2588
01:39:54,649 --> 01:39:52,920
questions I get which is where can I

2589
01:39:56,450 --> 01:39:54,659
find those cover songs that you use at

2590
01:39:58,850 --> 01:39:56,460
the end of the show well they are free

2591
01:40:00,950 --> 01:39:58,860
downloads for Plus members too and

2592
01:40:02,990 --> 01:40:00,960
without Plus members I can't hire the

2593
01:40:05,570 --> 01:40:03,000
occasional musician to bring these odd

2594
01:40:07,490 --> 01:40:05,580
cover song ideas to fruition Plus

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members are how I'm able to do what I do

2596
01:40:12,169 --> 01:40:09,300
without ads and without the big machine

2597
01:40:14,330 --> 01:40:12,179
being on my back we can fit so much more

2598
01:40:16,129 --> 01:40:14,340
into a two-hour interview and I do my

2599
01:40:19,070 --> 01:40:16,139
best to make it worth your time and

2600
01:40:21,530 --> 01:40:19,080
money the conversation only gets deeper

2601
01:40:23,689 --> 01:40:21,540
weirder and more controversial in that

2602
01:40:24,890 --> 01:40:23,699
private hour how could it not the way

2603
01:40:26,810 --> 01:40:24,900
things are going

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01:40:28,970 --> 01:40:26,820
but the best way to sign up is that the

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higher sidechats.com where new

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first-time subscribers always get a free

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7-Day trial because I'm just that

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confident there's no PayPal on the

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website but if you need to use PayPal

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then sign up through patreon and you get

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01:40:46,610 --> 01:40:44,639
credit or debit system but you can also

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01:40:49,610 --> 01:40:46,620
scope out the other options like a few

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various cryptos cash or check mail to

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01:40:53,270 --> 01:40:51,900
the PO box and I'll even barter with

2616
01:40:55,430 --> 01:40:53,280
most people if you have your own

2617
01:40:57,950 --> 01:40:55,440
business and produce something nice that

2618
01:41:00,530 --> 01:40:57,960
my wife or kid or taste buds might like

2619
01:41:02,510 --> 01:41:00,540
but the architects of consensus reality

2620
01:41:04,370 --> 01:41:02,520
have made it clear that these themes and

2621
01:41:07,129 --> 01:41:04,380
topics aren't really welcome on the main

2622
01:41:08,750 --> 01:41:07,139
stage and so this is how we secure a

2623
01:41:10,669 --> 01:41:08,760
little counterculture corner for

2624
01:41:13,310 --> 01:41:10,679
ourselves and I hope you'll join plus

2625
01:41:16,189 --> 01:41:13,320
because that is the only way it works

2626
01:41:18,410 --> 01:41:16,199
besides you can cancel anytime right on

2627
01:41:20,510 --> 01:41:18,420
your profile page the most common

2628
01:41:23,149 --> 01:41:20,520
concern I hear is people just being

2629
01:41:25,189 --> 01:41:23,159
unsure if THC plus will work with their

2630
01:41:27,890 --> 01:41:25,199
podcast app and the answer is probably

2631
01:41:29,870 --> 01:41:27,900
yes but if not we have several

2632
01:41:31,850 --> 01:41:29,880
high-level app recommendations for

2633
01:41:34,550 --> 01:41:31,860
whatever phone you use and the website

2634
01:41:36,050 --> 01:41:34,560
is made for mobile too we're trained to

2635
01:41:37,669 --> 01:41:36,060
tip a waitress for bringing us a

2636
01:41:40,490 --> 01:41:37,679
sandwich but that tip doesn't give you

2637
01:41:42,410 --> 01:41:40,500
access to a second sandwich really I'm

2638
01:41:44,390 --> 01:41:42,420
not asking for any more than that and I

2639
01:41:46,669 --> 01:41:44,400
think I offer a better service come get

2640
01:41:48,470 --> 01:41:46,679
your second serving of tasty conspiracy

2641
01:41:51,109 --> 01:41:48,480
goodness in exchange for that small

2642
01:41:53,149 --> 01:41:51,119
token of your appreciation beyond that

2643
01:41:55,189 --> 01:41:53,159
let it also be known that we have grown

2644
01:41:57,470 --> 01:41:55,199
and survived as long as we have By Word

2645
01:41:59,930 --> 01:41:57,480
of Mouth I don't care so much about

2646
01:42:02,990 --> 01:41:59,940
social media likes or follows but tell

2647
01:42:05,149 --> 01:42:03,000
the right people about THC and not just

2648
01:42:07,010 --> 01:42:05,159
listeners but the high level figures who

2649
01:42:09,229 --> 01:42:07,020
are better suited to sit down with me

2650
01:42:11,090 --> 01:42:09,239
than most other hosts and if you can

2651
01:42:12,950 --> 01:42:11,100
help me with any of these things I can

2652
01:42:14,890 --> 01:42:12,960
work to bring you better shows which is

2653
01:42:17,209 --> 01:42:14,900
just a a win-win for both of us

2654
01:42:19,669 --> 01:42:17,219
informative entertaining and

2655
01:42:21,290 --> 01:42:19,679
action-packed it also never hurts to

2656
01:42:23,149 --> 01:42:21,300
thank a guest you liked if you have the

2657
01:42:24,649 --> 01:42:23,159
time either we want them to know people

2658
01:42:26,930 --> 01:42:24,659
are listening so they're willing to come

2659
01:42:29,090 --> 01:42:26,940
back down the road too thank you for